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  1. 11-17-2012 09:11 PM #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    Did you even listen to him...

    Again, who in this thread is advocating one side being absolutely right and the use of deadly force on that side's behalf by the US?

    It's not exactly "all of the forums" or even most.
    Your video hadn't posted when I answered. Unfortunately I can't waste bandwidth watching. I am on a bandwidth noose. If the quote of RP's is the point of the video then I believe he agrees with what I am saying. He wouldn't say which side he was supporting personally.
    We are a worldwide political forum susposedly representing the belief of RP's noninterventionist foreign policy yet many are avidly taking sides in a foreign conflict and I think it is counter productive. That is just my opinion, hopefully some will see it my way and deal only with our countries involvement. With that I am out of this thread. I said my piece
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  3. 11-17-2012 09:17 PM #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Your video hadn't posted when I answered. Unfortunately I can't waste bandwidth watching. I am on a bandwidth noose. If the quote of RP's is the point of the video then I believe he agrees with what I am saying. He wouldn't say which side he was supporting personally.
    We are a worldwide political forum susposedly representing the belief of RP's noninterventionist foreign policy yet many are avidly taking sides in a foreign conflict and I think it is counter productive. That is just my opinion, hopefully some will see it my way and deal only with our countries involvement. With that I am out of this thread. I said my piece
    He uses the phrase "concentration camp" to refer to conditions in Gaza... I think that's a pretty strong personal opinion.

    No one here supports actually legislating taking a side, or sending troops, or sending money, that I have seen.

    This is along the lines of Ron's personal views on abortion, drugs, or marriage... and the way he puts all of that aside in order to do the Constitutional thing.
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  4. 11-17-2012 09:26 PM #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    I think RP forums does great harm in reinforcing racist stereotypes people have of RP's ideas by always wading full on into debating who is right and whole is wrong in a conflicts in the world, we should just wipe our hands of.
    If the average person came on these forums and read all of these anti Israel comments they would be turned off immediately and wouldn't give the liberty movement a 2nd thought. It's this kind of stuff that will hurt Rand if he decides to run for President in 2016.
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  5. 11-17-2012 09:55 PM #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    If the average person came on these forums and read all of these anti Israel comments they would be turned off immediately and wouldn't give the liberty movement a 2nd thought. It's this kind of stuff that will hurt Rand if he decides to run for President in 2016.
    That's because the average person can't comprehend the idea that there are events which took place outside of their short lifespan. If it happened before their birth, most people don't care about it or can't be swayed to even learn about it.

    You are correct, unfortunately. At the same time, I think part of being a good liberty supporter is educating yourself. If a person was that closed minded to begin with they were probably never going to come onboard anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeroneous View Post
    If a person was that closed minded to begin with they were probably never going to come onboard anyway.
    I suppose you can keep telling yourself that.
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    In case you're interested, this guy is broadcasting a live audio feed from Gaza. I've had it on for the last hour or so and it is spooky. The sound of Israeli drones flying overhead never stops and you hear the occasional blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    If the average person came on these forums and read all of these anti Israel comments they would be turned off immediately and wouldn't give the liberty movement a 2nd thought. It's this kind of stuff that will hurt Rand if he decides to run for President in 2016.
    I suppose you can keep telling yourself that.

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  9. 11-17-2012 10:57 PM #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    If the average person came on these forums and read all of these anti Israel comments they would be turned off immediately and wouldn't give the liberty movement a 2nd thought. It's this kind of stuff that will hurt Rand if he decides to run for President in 2016.
    This is a forum to share opinions were not the 2016 liberty HQ. If they run off because people personally don't like Israel what happens if they see pot smokers here, or gays, or EGAD they see me a muslim! This forum is just a melting pot of people who traditionally can't stand eachother united under the banner of LEAVE US ALONE FEDS! And I just think that is wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post
    This is a forum to share opinions were not the 2016 liberty HQ. If they run off because people personally don't like Israel what happens if they see pot smokers here, or gays, or EGAD they see me a muslim! This forum is just a melting pot of people who traditionally can't stand eachother united under the banner of LEAVE US ALONE FEDS! And I just think that is wonderful.
    In your defense, I have yet to see you wielding a sword and ak-47 and promising to kill the mushrikeen on the forum.

    and presumably, most gays on this forum agree with getting the govt out of the marriage business, so they wouldn't be the "enemy" to a RINO who came here looking for info on Dr. Rand Paul.
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  11. 11-18-2012 02:16 AM #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Does he go on record saying this county is right and that country is wrong? I don't think so.
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