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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post

    One major difference is that Israel and Palestine are enemy nations. Long guarded fences, sanctions and kill zones are common along borders between enemy nations. Look at South Korea/North Korea, India/Pakistan, India/Bangladesh, Sudan/South Sudan, Cambodia/Thailand, DRC/Angola, Ethiopia/Eritrea, Venezuela/Columbia, etc. Each country feels the other is a threat to their national security.
    ???
    How did they become enemies..
    Palestinians,, (Christian,Jew and Arab) lived peaceably for the most part till Zionists invaded/infested the area.

    As with ALL those other countries,, outside instigation is the cause of the fighting.

    Israel has only existed since 1948,,, and has been stirring shit the whole time.
    The Zionists started shit in the late 1800s when they came into existence.

    They are a curse on the Jewish people and the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlasoon View Post
    Why do we care what Israel or the Palestinians do to each other to resolve their conflicts?
    Because our Foreign Policy and many domestic issues are directly tied to Israel. Israel Lobbies exert considerable and undue influence on our politicians.
    And a third World War will have dire and direct consequences on life here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jlasoon View Post
    LET THEM FIGHT, they've been doing it for thousands of years.
    No. No they haven't.
    Zionism has not been around for 200 years. And Palestine was peaceful for the most part for a thousand years before Zionism.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    No. No they haven't.
    Zionism has not been around for 200 years. And Palestine was peaceful for the most part for a thousand years before Zionism.
    Peaceful for the most part? LOL. Get out of here. Your bias is glaring. Both sides have their religious nuts. LET THEM FIGHT!!! Intervention is futile. If you've never been to that part of the world, I would suggest you keep your mouth shut.

    This goes beyond Zionism.
    Last edited by Jlasoon; 11-15-2012 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He is against using the state as a mouth-piece to 'condemn' something or a nation in the name of the people, instead individuals should condemn the actions of governments and such.
    It’s not interventionist for congresspersons to criticize a state for bombing another country, especially when the bombing was done with weapons their state provided it.
    Last edited by robert68; 11-15-2012 at 11:22 PM.

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    Interesting thought....

    The nation of Israel believe that it is their 'right' to hold ancestral lands and that America should help them secure it.
    America, as a union, holds the lands that are ancestral to the native Americans.
    If we support Israel, economically and with munitions, should we not support the Native Americans in the same way?
    Would we object if other nations did?

    Things that make one go..hmmmm?
    Last edited by phill4paul; 11-15-2012 at 11:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert68 View Post
    It’s not interventionist for congresspersons to criticize a state for bombing another country, especially when the bombing was done with weapons their state provided for it.
    Yes, when you look at what commenced this bloodshed, it was Israel's state apparatus that broadcasted the assassination of the HAMAS leader, like boasting their technological superiority at squashing ants in a video game. Weapons funded by stolen money from American taxpayers. This genocide on people creates security and safety repercussions here in the US. We are viewed as the enablers that armed the psychopaths ruling Israel that murder and imprison Palestinians.

    US corporate media has been in full out warmongering retardation, along with GIYUS MEGAPHONE propagandizing every piece of social media/www dialog.

    Even Joe the Plumber has it wrong in his tweets...
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    4 those of u that won't support Israel. I would much rather b on ur bad side than GOD's bad side. GOD says standby Israel & I DO #tcot #jtp

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Interesting thought....


    Things that make one go..hmmmm?
    Not to those who know and respect the actual facts.
    Last edited by robert68; 11-16-2012 at 07:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
    Pretty dumb to declare open war against someone 100x stronger than you.

    BRB challenging Mike Tyson to a boxing match, crying when I lose saying its unfair.
    Thats why you dont challenge him to a boxing match. You challenge him to never sleep, and when he does you slit his throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by androidappme View Post
    The Russian government has propaganda objectives. Talking against Big Government and Oligarchy and Fascism and Socialism and Communism and watching RT or Al Jazeera sounds weird.
    What is sad, is that RT and Al Jazeera are more fair and unbiased than our corporately controlled media.

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