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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    Are there sanctions on honey, sugar, and cement for the Cherokee?
    Are there American settlements being taken from the reservation and housing being built on them for white Christians only?
    IS there a big long guarded fence, and kill zone, surrounding the Cherokee reservation, with guarded entry ways where every Cherokee that wants to work outside of the reservation must wait in line hours each day to be patted down and given clearance by American Soldiers?
    In the 19th century, it wasn't really all that different, obviously there were technological limitations then.

    One major difference is that Israel and Palestine are enemy nations. Long guarded fences, sanctions and kill zones are common along borders between enemy nations. Look at South Korea/North Korea, India/Pakistan, India/Bangladesh, Sudan/South Sudan, Cambodia/Thailand, DRC/Angola, Ethiopia/Eritrea, Venezuela/Columbia, etc. Each country feels the other is a threat to their national security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awake View Post
    So your saying he was for bombing Iraq's nuke plant?
    Where did I say that? I was responding to someone who said Israel deserve condemnation. Israel deserve nothing from the government. Neither government aid, nor government condemnation. Same with Palestine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post
    Where did I say that? I was responding to someone who said Israel deserve condemnation. Israel deserve nothing from the government. Neither government aid, nor government condemnation. Same with Palestine.
    Ahh...Ok, my bad.

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    Can someone confirm that what started this new wave of violence was Israel's assassination of a Hamas leader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon311 View Post
    Can someone confirm that what started this new wave of violence was Israel's assassination of a Hamas leader?
    Incorrect

    http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/i...ho-started-it/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon311 View Post
    Can someone confirm that what started this new wave of violence was Israel's assassination of a Hamas leader?
    Low level "skirmishes" have been going on for practically forever. But the assasination greatly raised the level of responce and violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by compromise View Post
    In the 19th century, it wasn't really all that different, obviously there were technological limitations then.
    Oh, I could have sworn your post was used in a present tense manner for greater misleading impact.
    Hey, look:
    Just as the Cherokee Nation is a concentration camp occupied by Oklahoma..
    Is that the word "is" I see?
    Are you going to try and tell me it depends on what the definition of "is" is?
    Or wait, your fingers slipped, and you meant to type "was" right?
    Because now you are talking 19th century all of the sudden, when called out on your BULLSHIT.

    Nice attempt at a fast one, there slick, but you didn't fool me.

    One major difference is that Israel and Palestine are enemy nations.
    No, Palestine is not a nation, America and Israel will never allow it to be. It is an occupied territory.
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    The arguments over who started it are totally irrelevant, because the very existence of Israel is an attack on the basic human rights of the Palestinians. The fact of the matter is Hamas is extremely passive in the face of Israel, but they are perfect since they also cast the "Islamist" aura which scares all the westerners unlike the PLO which was seen as the face of resistance for some time.

    Hamas actively arrests (and executes!!) people serious about fighting the Israelis, but this wasn't enough. They played nice which the Israelis, maybe it's time they don't anymore.

    BTW I'm pretty sure Hamas' rockets don't even have exploding heads, they just sort of land and break a couple bricks, which is why in any confrontation only like 10 Israelis will die despite hundreds or thousands of these toy rockets being hurled across the border. Hamas also has no incentive to fire rockets at Israel unless Israel transgressed first, I mean duh... that's like asking to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What I have viewed/heard on http://wwitv.com/

    This all initially started with a couple Israeli solders shot a child. Then it all escalated... Israel says it started by rocket fire from Gaza.

    Mohammed Omer reported from Gaza said that the Hamas leader just received the final drafts for a continuous truce, as well as the proposed deal for a permanent peace treaty. recently, reported that Israel is now launching attacks from sea.

    Funniest of the US garbage shows reporting: CNBC the Kudlow Report, he and his guests, "IRAN is bombing Israel. All the bombs are from Iran... etc etc."

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    Why do we care what Israel or the Palestinians do to each other to resolve their conflicts? People need to stop meddling with other people's sh*t. Let the strong survive, and let the weak be decimated. Protect yourself, your family, and fight for your country, forget about this crap. Most would be terrified if I was Netanyahu. This crap has nothing to do with borders, or rights, or freedom. This has everything to do with religion. Rationality has no place in this conflict. Let one side wipe the floor with the other, and lets all move on. This escalation every few years is getting old, really old. Defending one side over another is infuriating and nauseating at the same time. LET THEM FIGHT, they've been doing it for thousands of years.

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