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    Israel has plenty of room to be condemned. They continue to exacerbate war by stealing and killing people off of their property.Since the inception of Israel , violent Zionism, bent on territorial expansion is, and always has been, the US and Israeli foreign policy. Its not as complicated as they say... War is always about the theft of and destruction of property.



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    Quote Originally Posted by awake View Post
    Israel has plenty of room to be condemned. They continue to exacerbate war by stealing and killing people off of their property.Since the inception of Israel , violent Zionism, bent on territorial expansion is, and always has been, the US and Israeli foreign policy. Its not as complicated as they say... War is always about the theft of and destruction property.
    Yes and Israel pulled out of Gaza.

    Israel is so violent and so bent on territorial expansion that its less than the size of New Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by androidappme View Post
    Yes and Israel pulled out of Gaza.
    Gaza is a concentration camp occupied by Israel.

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    Israel has again attacked Gaza. In its aerial and ground assault that began on Saturday, November 10th, at least 7 Palestinians have been killed, 5 of them civilians, 3 of whom were children. Up to 52 others, including 6 women and 12 children, have been wounded.


    One of the wounded is carried into a hospital in Gaza City following Israel’s shelling (Reuters/Mohammed Salem)

    As in every vicious military offensive Israel carries out in Gaza, the dominant narrative is that it is a response to rocket fire from Gaza into southern Israel. This is how it’s being reported in the US, and this is how virtually every American understands it.

    And it’s a lie.

    It’s true that on Saturday, prior to the expanded Israeli bombardment, the military wing of the Popular Front For the Liberation of Palestine shot an anti-tank missile at an Israeli Defense Forces vehicle near the Gaza border, wounding four Israeli soldiers. But what prompted the firing of the anti-tank missile?

    First, on Monday, November 5th, Israeli forces shot and killed 23 year old Ahmad Nabhani when he “approached the border fence with Israel.” According to at least one account, Nabhani was mentally challenged.

    Then, on Thursday, November 8th, the Israeli Occupation Forces – eight tanks and four bulldozers, to be exact – invaded southern Gaza, shooting and killing a 13-year old boy. Palestinian Centre for Human Rights (via):

    According to investigations conducted by PCHR, at approximately 16:30 on Thursday, as a result of the indiscriminate shooting by IOF military vehicles that had moved into the ‘Abassan village, 13-year-old Ahmed Younis Khader Abu Daqqa was seriously wounded by a bullet to the abdomen. At the time he was shot, Ahmed had been playing football with his friends in front of his family’s house, located nearly 1,200 meters away from the area where the IOF were present.

    So, even if honest observers brush to the side the cruel and inhumane Israeli blockade on Gaza and refuse to let it influence the equation of exactly which side started this flare up of violence, it is clear Israel started this latest clash. And in response to the response, Israel has waged a harsh, disproportionate military assault.

    This would be a simple thing to understand if, for example, Western media bothered to ask the other side what happened. Palestinian news media immediately reported that the anti-tank missile Israel was supposedly responding to was admitted to by the Popular Resistance Committees, who described it as “revenge” for preceding Israeli violence on Gaza. But that basic task of honest journalism is apparently out of the question.

    Every single Israeli incursion or attack on Gaza is accompanied by the same narrative: Israel fairly responded to unprovoked Palestinian rocket fire. The last major war on Gaza, Operation Cast Lead in December ’08-January ’09, also carried this narrative. Israel committed war crimes in that one-sided conflict, targeting and killing hundreds of civilians, using indiscriminate weapons, and intentionally destroying ....

    Need more?

    Read here: http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/i...ho-started-it/

    Same lies told over and over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Gaza is a concentration camp occupied by Israel.
    No. It's ghetto blockaded by Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwax23 View Post
    Hamas has launched over 200 rockets and various missiles into Israel since this began. 8 Israelis are dead. Israel did not "Attack Gaza" as the thread title seems to pretend. Israel is defending itself.
    The Israeli responce goes beyond proportional. Hamas sent a few missiles up (as they do from time to time) which caused little damage and Israel assasinated a Hamas official. Now they are calling up people and massing forces at the border for a possible invasion of Palestine. "Who started it first" actually goes back decades. Both have been doing things which upset the other side.

    Israel needs to ease up on the Palestinian territories and allow them more freedom to move and trade and autonomy. Then they will have less reason to hate and attack Israel. The Palestinian territories are a police camp where travel and movement of goods are severely restricted. Their agressive military responce may play well to its own citizens as political theater but it will not improve their security in the long term.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-15-2012 at 03:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwax23 View Post
    Hamas has launched over 200 rockets and various missiles into Israel since this began. 8 Israelis are dead. Israel did not "Attack Gaza" as the thread title seems to pretend. Israel is defending itself.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by androidappme View Post
    Israel is so violent and so bent on territorial expansion that its less than the size of New Jersey.
    Israel is bigger than New Jersey, so which propaganda outlet are you parroting, since you obviously heard this factually incorrect statement somewhere else. I know none of your arguments come from any type of original thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awake View Post
    Israel has plenty of room to be condemned. They continue to exacerbate war by stealing and killing people off of their property.Since the inception of Israel , violent Zionism, bent on territorial expansion is, and always has been, the US and Israeli foreign policy. Its not as complicated as they say... War is always about the theft of and destruction property.
    So you believe Ron Paul was wrong when he was one of the only Congressmen to vote against Reagan-led condemnation of Israel for bombing Iraq's nuclear plant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Gaza is a concentration camp occupied by Israel.
    Just as the Cherokee Nation is a concentration camp occupied by Oklahoma..
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