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    Not good. They have really been escalating things there.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8AD0WP20121114
    (Reuters) - Israel launched a major offensive against Palestinian militants in Gaza on Wednesday, killing the military commander of Hamas in an air strike and threatening an invasion of the enclave that the Islamist group vowed would "open the gates of hell".

    The onslaught shattered hopes that a truce mediated on Tuesday by Egypt could pull the two sides back from the brink of war after five days of escalating Palestinian rocket attacks and Israeli strikes at militant targets.

    Operation "Pillar of Defence" began with a surgical strike on a car carrying the commander of the military wing of Hamas, the Iranian-armed Islamist movement which controls Gaza and dominates a score of smaller armed groups.

    Within minutes of the death of Ahmed Al-Jaabari, big explosions shook Gaza as the Israeli air force struck at selected targets just before sundown, blasting plumes of smoke and debris high above the crowded city.

    Panicking civilians ran for cover and the death toll mounted quickly. Ten people including three children were killed, the health ministry said, and about 40 were wounded. Also among the dead were an 11-month-old baby and a woman pregnant with twins.

    Army tanks shelled border areas of Gaza in south and the Israeli navy shelled a Hamas security position from the sea.

    Hamas stuck back, firing at least four Grad rockets at the southern city of Beersheba in what it called its initial response. Israel reported damage but no casualties. Its 'Iron Dome' interceptor defence knocked out a dozen rockets in flight.

    The escalation in Gaza came in a week when Israel fired at Syrian artillery positions it said had fired into the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights amid a civil war in Syria that has brought renewed instability to neighboring Lebanon.

    Egypt, whose new Islamist government pledged to honor the 1979 peace treaty with Israel, condemned the raids as a threat to regional security, recalled its ambassador from Israel and called for an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council.

    Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi's predecessor Hosni Mubarak twice withdrew his ambassador, with no lasting effect. But Israel will be watching for signs of a more aggressive approach by the Islamist leader that could imperil their ties.

    Mursi has said of the Palestinians that "our blood is their blood" and Egypt may not "accept what was accepted before".

    Russia called for an end to the raids. Arab League foreign ministers planned to meet on Saturday to discuss the crisis.
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    Fix the thread title, Gaza, not Gaze

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    I thought Israel liked teh gaze??
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    Now I'm going to have to listen to the neocon evangelicals weeping and wailing.

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    Hamas says now in 'open war' with Israel, promises 'gates of hell'
    http://rt.com/news/hamas-open-war-israel-694/

    Diplomats say both the Israeli and Palestinian envoys are to speak at the emergency UNSC meeting.

    00:51 GMT:
    The United Nations Security Council has called an emergency meeting to discuss escalating tensions between Israel and the Palestinian territory of Gaza. The meeting is scheduled for 0200 GMT, and will take place behind closed doors.
    http://rt.com/news/gaza-israel-hamas-attack-687/

    Israel strikes Gaza, calls up reservists, ready to ‘expand’ operation


    targeted killing of Ahmaed Jaabari, head of the Ezzedin Qassam Brigades by airstrike

    The death toll from some 20 strikes has risen to 10, two of them children
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    The IDF says all options are on the table in Gaza, including a ground operation.

    Israel must bear in mind regional changes following the Arab Spring, the FJP vowed
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    “will not allow the Palestinians to be subjected to Israeli aggression, as in the past.”
    http://rt.com/news/egypt-ambassador-un-israel-719/
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Pretty dumb to declare open war against someone 100x stronger than you.

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    Where are the Israeli people when this shit happens....why do they not stand up to their terrorist rogue government? Or are they condoning this behavior?
    Such a small country and they still can't control the goons who run it.
    I am so tired of no accountability in government. (especially ours)
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    Just waited for the election to be over to begin attack plans already in place.
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    I can hear the pleas and tv commercials now... "Support the fellowship of Christians and Jews by donating to the cause of Irsael today... after all, genocide aint THAT bad."
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    Wonder what Egypts response will be?

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    Egypt is CIA/CFR run... that's all a BS smokescreen to take our tax dollars and send them to the criminals in Israel.
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    Looks like they just hit Tel Aviv a few minutes ago. Up on Drudge now.

    Well, here it is. War of 2012. Let's see just how much much Obomba really supports peace.
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    Hamas has launched over 200 rockets and various missiles into Israel since this began. 8 Israelis are dead. Israel did not "Attack Gaza" as the thread title seems to pretend. Israel is defending itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwax23 View Post
    Hamas has launched over 200 rockets and various missiles into Israel since this began. 8 Israelis are dead. Israel did not "Attack Gaza" as the thread title seems to pretend. Israel is defending itself.
    That's what they said the last time, except it wasn't true. Israel violated the ceasefire--and I don't believe that now they're just "defending themselves."

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    Have we just witnessed the start or WW3? If Egypt and Syria get drawn in, Russia will soon follow, Turkey will be all in (NATO)... Could be messy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    Where are the Israeli people when this shit happens....why do they not stand up to their terrorist rogue government? Or are they condoning this behavior?
    Such a small country and they still can't control the goons who run it.
    I am so tired of no accountability in government. (especially ours)
    The majority of them have been probably been indoctrinated with the belief that Israel is a fragile country that is constantly a hair's breadth away from being wiped off the face of the planet. If the US gov't can convince the majority of the population that a bunch of radical brown people in the middle east across the ocean thousands of miles away that they pose an imminent threat and require military intervention imagine how easy it is for the Israeli gov't to convince a population that sees the threat right across their borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwax23 View Post
    Hamas has launched over 200 rockets and various missiles into Israel since this began. 8 Israelis are dead. Israel did not "Attack Gaza" as the thread title seems to pretend. Israel is defending itself.
    Some how I doubt that, but still maybe Israel should consider closing down the concentration camps they have setup for their neighbors if they want to stop being attacked by people in the concentration camps. I mean, fuck, if Jewish people in the concentration camps in WWII had tried to stage an attack against Germany I don't think anybody would have complained too much about that except maybe the Gestapo. The only difference now is that the entire premise is presented differently by the media, but the facts aren't that much different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Some how I doubt that, but still maybe Israel should consider closing down the concentration camps they have setup for their neighbors if they want to stop being attacked by people in the concentration camps. I mean, fuck, if Jewish people in the concentration camps in WWII had tried to stage an attack against Germany I don't think anybody would have complained too much about that except maybe the Gestapo. The only difference now is that the entire premise is presented differently by the media, but the facts aren't that much different.
    Jews (and Poles, Gypsies, gays, etc.) actually DID stage some attacks on their captors. They're written about as the heroes they are.

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    The 'gates of hell' will open when our 'beast' their 'mehdi' receives the oath of obedience in Mecca.they will open still further when our 'false prophet' their false Jesus 'issa' appears while the 'mehdi' is praying in Damascus I believe it is.Our Jesus will return in the sky and like the lightning we will all know it so don't be deceived if you aren't worthy to be taken up to meet him in the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    The 'gates of hell' will open when our 'beast' their 'mehdi' receives the oath of obedience in Mecca.they will open still further when our 'false prophet' their false Jesus 'issa' appears while the 'mehdi' is praying in Damascus I believe it is.Our Jesus will return in the sky and like the lightning we will all know it so don't be deceived if you aren't worthy to be taken up to meet him in the air.
    Sounds like project blue beam.
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    Or Project Eating Shrooms. Wow. Just fucking wow.
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    Why are people watching RT? Russia Today?

    The people here are not libertarians. They are just idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by androidappme View Post
    Why are people watching RT? Russia Today?

    The people here are not libertarians. They are just idiots.

    Russia Today is a Russian government television channel.
    So,,, ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by androidappme View Post
    Why are people watching RT? Russia Today?

    The people here are not libertarians. They are just idiots.

    Russia Today is a Russian government television channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    So,,, ?
    The Russian government has propaganda objectives. Talking against Big Government and Oligarchy and Fascism and Socialism and Communism and watching RT or Al Jazeera sounds weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    The 'gates of hell' will open when our 'beast' their 'mehdi' receives the oath of obedience in Mecca.they will open still further when our 'false prophet' their false Jesus 'issa' appears while the 'mehdi' is praying in Damascus I believe it is.Our Jesus will return in the sky and like the lightning we will all know it so don't be deceived if you aren't worthy to be taken up to meet him in the air.
    And a whole bunch are going to be disappointed to find that they are stuck in the middle of what they started,,while thinking that they would be snatched out before it.

    Surprise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbot24 View Post
    Go back to your cave Golem.
    It is time to purge out people who says they support Ron Paul and what he stands for but are in the movement because its something popular to do, out of the movement, because they have nothing in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by androidappme View Post
    It is time to purge out people who says they support Ron Paul and what he stands for but are in the movement because its something popular to do, out of the movement, because they have nothing in them.
    When did the Liberty movement become "popular"? Will Lady Gaga be doing a song about us? Can't wait for that. I'll have to watch it on youtube since I lost RT when I ditched television.
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