For those who are having employers pay for the health insurance. Us in the real world are getting crushed. My quote for a crappy policy came back the other day at $2400/mo for my family of 4. This past year it was $1100/mo. The numbers I've heard floated around for Obama care are in the $15k per year range. Which in my mind is a deal but I would guess that the VAST majority of the non self employed people don't have a concept of the cost of health insurance today.