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He didn't quite "admit it" but it's clear they understand now they aren't going anywhere without us.
The battle for the party has just started, and I think ultimately Rand's presentation is going to attract a lot of the mainstream voters that these NeoCons have taken for granted.
It's just an opinion... man...
Interesting. My mother called me and told me she heard a similar conversation on the radio. (Republicans saying "Maybe we compromise on social issues like abortion" and saying "Ron Paul" in the same breath.) Here's the irony. Ron Paul is rock solid on conservative social issues! It's harder to get more "pro life" than Ron Paul without going crazy like Santorum. It's the wars stupid! (I'm glad someone brought up the foreign policy issue). It's also civil liberties. Does who can marry who even resonate in a country where American citizens can be detained without trial or even extra-judicially killed? Does your marital status even matter if you are illegally detained or on a kill list?
9/11 Thermate experiments
Eze 22:25 There's a conspiracy of prophets within her....
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
Kristol also wants amnesty and tax raises.
"They also are not fond of occupying war, and they are in support of the old Republican way of less foreign entanglement."
Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
--Albert J. Nock
Do you not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed? - Oxenstiern
Violence will not save us. Let us love one another, for love is from God.
The most significant thing about the Tea Party is it's leaderless? Rand Paul is more respectable than his father? Republicans should be concerned that Bill Kristol 'won't like' peace? Something about imperialism is working so well that we should be concerned that peace is '...the old Republican way'?
The neocons seem to be feeling the Reaper. Thank God.
You don't have to be pro-life or pro-choice to recognize that each state should be allowed to deal with those types of issues in their own way.
This is why I never bother arguing about social positions on these boards... if we just followed the 10th amendment and allowed the states the right to choose none of us would we have a right to complain or argue about anything outside the state level.
It's just an opinion... man...
Rand is the future. They know it. They can't stop it.
"The Bible consistently denies free will.
These people just don't understand. To them it's a game to be won. Victory means power. What they are really not getting is the fact that they have been rendered obsolete. The Republican Party isn't licking it's wounds. The Republican Party is dead and these guys killed it with their Neo-Conservative agenda. In other words, Communists infiltrated the Democratic Party decades ago, and now they infiltrated and suicided the Republican Party. And we are left with a one party system.
When there is only one faction to vote for, how can you resist tyranny by voting? I'm just finding it harder and harder to buy into the whole concept of political action. Politics is always decades behind the people, so why not be on the front lines? Ron Paul didn't change the world by voting 'no' time and again. He changed it by talking with people and debating people. But as we saw approaching the end of the 2012 campaign, that pulpit can be silenced.
Someone please convince me that I am wrong and that the world can be changed through casting a vote. After 236 years of voting, we are all on the brink of disaster.
Let's just hope that this 'buyer's remorse' leads them to turn off Fox. It would help if we were to start up something to compete with it.
FOX News -We Report Somethings Sometimes -and You Decide. Sometimes We Report Somethings After You Decide.
EDIT: I'm sharing that vid with all of the surprised Romney voters who liked to repeat the Fox "strategies" and who are looking to place blame. Playing up the fact that Fox news reports the libertatian influence AFTER Romney lost. Thanks for the vid + rep.
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Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is kept safe. Proverbs 29:25
Liberty doesn't do fear. Period.
My only concern is the people who pay just enough attention to be complete idiots. The ones that will hear "Rand Paul" and 'think' (I use that term loosely) it's "Ron Paul" again. These are the same morons that thought we were talking about "RuPaul" in 2008 whenever Ron was mentioned. If only Rand's name was "Andrew Paul" or something distinctly different to ensure no possible confusion. This probably sounds crazy but from a marketing perspective it concerns me.
Admits?? Is Bill Kristol known for accurate predictions?
Lol... this clip was delicious. How'd they get away with saying all this without someone in the earpiece telling them to stop?
Someone must have been on vacation.
"The average person figures that the president tells the truth, the vice president tells the truth, the secretary of state tell the truth; and they don't. They don't. The founders understood that people would be flawed, that political leaders would not be the best of men so they set forth the constitution. We don't follow the constitution in this country; had we done so in 2001 and 2002, the world would be a different place" - Karen Kwiatkowski
I call BS. It's just another way to make us think we are relevant. Fuck 'em and fuck politics. You don't change the mafia by joining it.
END THE STATE
And what blueprint are you talking about? The one he spoke about, or the one he lived? Because just like Jefferson, Ron Paul said and did two different things.
“Ideas are very important to the shaping of society. In fact, they are more powerful than bombings or armies or guns. And this is because ideas are capable of spreading without limit. They are behind all the choices we make. They can transform the world in a way that governments and armies cannot. Fighting for liberty with ideas makes more sense to me than fighting with guns or politics or political power. With ideas, we can make real change that lasts.”
― Ron Paul, Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom
What people here don't understand, and what even Ron doesn't understand, is being a national political figure gives you the GREATEST AUDIENCE to educate. Without Ron debating on the national stage in 2007 we'd still be lost.
Without the platform that was given these past 2 elections there would have been no educating anyone to the degree Ron did.
If you want to educate the masses then you've got to get the masses together to listen... that's best done within a party structure.
If you went door to door the rest of your life preaching the message you wouldn't get as far as Ron did by having millions watching him debate.
Ideas are VERY important, but without a real platform to give those ideas you'll never get anywhere...
Last edited by NoOneButPaul; 11-12-2012 at 05:27 PM.
It's just an opinion... man...