Originally Posted by youngbuck
kinda like the eviction idea that Walter Block was talking about...
want an abortion? just wait until the baby can survive outside the body, deliver via c-sec, and then have decent folk waiting to adopt for cheap.
kinda like the eviction idea that Walter Block was talking about...
want an abortion? just wait until the baby can survive outside the body, deliver via c-sec, and then have decent folk waiting to adopt for cheap.
"The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
--Henry David Thoreau
Paying for services. Hmm. Well, personally, my grandfather paid for my birth and my mother's confinement in a maternity home. Then my adoptive parents paid to adopt me. As I stated previously, my adoption papers actually state that they were paying for me--not a paperwork shuffle. That's illegal, however, so yes, adoption operated under the pretense of paying for services.
I've no idea who paid for the women's c-sections. Typically in 3rd world countries, women are told that if they don't have the money for their hospital bills, all sorts of bad things will happen if they don't surrender the child. In this country, Medicaid generally pays for the birth. Adoption laws are all state laws, so things vary from state to state, but there is a limit as to how much money can go directly to the expectant mother in exchange for her child. Many of the complaints we see making the news are from prospective adopters who feel as if they've been scammed because an individual or an agency "promised" a child in exchange for money then the mother changed her mind. That is perfectly legal because children cannot be bought and sold.
Adoption is an industry complete with paid lobbyists that do a very good job of making sure the law is written to ensure a profit. I've bumped heads with the industry more than once in an attempt to secure my own rights as a person who was adopted during my infancy. From my perspective, the real product--the thing that is actually exchanged for money--was my identity. Those babies in Egypt were stripped of their identities as well.
What's life without liberty? Why should I be happy to be alive when I'm denied a right as basic as knowing who I am? I may as well be a GMO soybean without a label because my genes don't match up with my title of ownership (my birth certificate).
In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
Which is just one of the reasons I am against abortion.
Not that it will go anywhere, but there's a show on PBS that features a round table of semi-prominent women from both sides of the aisle. They all agreed that adoption in the US is needlessly complicated and expensive, and desperately needs reform.
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I blog at Red State Eclectic, I totally tweet here, I sell stuff here, and also here. Liberty rocks!
what is the right to know who you are? shouldn't it be the right to pursue self-discovery?
most people go through their entire life without ever figuring out who they are...
"The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
--Henry David Thoreau
If we could better define that, adoptees might get some rights.
I would agree that the right to pursue self-discovery is at least a big part of that. And I need to make it very clear that I have been able to accomplish that despite current adoption law. However, I was raised to believe that my identity IS my property. I was not allowed to have any information until I was 18 (although my amom caved on some of it when I was 14), but my adoptive dad raised me to believe that when I turned 18, no one had the right to deny me my own information. Not just everyone is raised in that manner. And I did take back what is mine. I was, and continue to be, very fortunate to have been adopted by someone who believes the state has no right to interfere in my personal business. Dad has even gone to court with me to help me get my paperwork for proving DAR eligibility.
But what about everyone else? They're at the mercy of others to provide or deny them their personal information. With the advance of technology, DNA testing is becoming more viable. I personally had a cousin match who just happened to match with enough other cousins that I was able to at least help her pinpoint her paternal grandfather. And I'm very, very happy to be able to engage in a free market activity that will help people find their origins.
But it was the state that stole them from us through adoption law. That's just wrong.
In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
There is another point that is worth making here. When I went to court with my son, daughter, and adoptive father (my natural father is dead) to get my paper work, I did not appear as an adult citizen. I appeared in juvenile court. I'm pushing 50, and I had a date in juvenile court. Cute, huh? I felt soooo special. The laws over which I made my argument were not directed at the general population. They were written especially for adoptees--as a group. 'Cause ya know, equal protection only applies to non-adopted persons. Adoptees are not individuals. We're special! We're a part of a collective. Of course, I made my point that I am NOT part of a special collective. I am an individual with individual rights protected by the Constitution. Among those is the right to free association, and proving DAR eligibility is part of that right to free association.
I was hoping for a denial and an appeal because I would have won. Instead, the judge very quietly and with an ACTUAL WINK gave me my paperwork.
In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
What do you think those Legal fees are??? Payment. Why does it cost more to adopt a white blonde hair blue eyed baby? You can adopted a baby for the low cost of papers signing over rights to the child. Yet it somehow always ends up being a lot more then that. Many times the people adopting will pay the hospital bill but there is always some middle man wanting to make ten grand or so.
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