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    Cairo, EGYPT - A police official said on Sunday officers had arrested five suspects, including two nurses and a doctor working at the Cairo hospital where the babies were sold for almost three years.


    Police are searching for the hospital manager who escaped arrest.


    The official said the network also performed caesarian operations on women who had left it too late for an abortion of an unwanted child in exchange for allowing the doctors to sell the babies, usually to couples who could not have their own children.


    Adoption is illegal in Egypt, which adheres to Islamic law in some family matters.


    Some couples have sought to bypass the ban by buying children.
    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...#ixzz2BvGXQj7T

    My neighbor just adopted two boys... Their "legal fees" are up over $40,000; but they didn't "pay for the baby".
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...#ixzz2BvGXQj7T

    My neighbor just adopted two boys... Their "legal fees" are up over $40,000; but they didn't "pay for the baby".
    They'll get part of that back with the adoption tax credit. We'll all be paying for their babies. With the prices for babies soaring as they are, I asked my a-dad how much he paid for me. I know they had to take out a loan because it's in my paperwork from the agency. (It actually says they were paying for me. I guess things were a little less PC back in the '60s.) He couldn't remember, but when I told him how much it costs now, he about fainted. He said that it wasn't THAT much, and that he wouldn't pay that much to adopt anyone. In fact, he said, in retrospect, he wouldn't adopt again. Finally. My work is done, lol.

    Egypt doesn't take kindly to things such as this. I wonder how many Americans got in on this deal.
    In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.

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    How do they taste?
    “If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

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    Just in case people haven't heard of the adoption tax credit, here's a link:

    http://www.nacac.org/taxcredit/taxcredit2011.html

    That links to last year's credit. Information for this year is also available at the link. It has not been renewed, but there is an effort, of course, to save this tax credit:

    http://adoptiontaxcredit.org/faqs/

    If you happen to be contacting your Congress persons, you might want to mention that you oppose the adoption tax credit.
    In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.

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    I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the babies being aborted or dying. And how in hell is adoption illegal in the cases where abortion is deemed legal, but the baby is saved?! That's pretty f'n backwards.
    Abortion is legal where it is deemed necessary for the health of the mother.

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    I helped my mom get the adoption credit a few years ago. Netted hear a refund nearly $13,000. The child must be deemed special needs to redeem it. You have to submit a lot of paperwork with the refund (and it took more than 6 months) but she eventually got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngbuck View Post
    I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the babies being aborted or dying. And how in hell is adoption illegal in the cases where abortion is deemed legal, but the baby is saved?! That's pretty f'n backwards.
    Believe it or not, adoption as we currently practice it in the Western world is not necessary. My ex-husband, who happens to be Palestinian, had difficulties understanding what being adopted means. At the point we married, I had been a part of my natural family for several years. I also maintain a relationship with my adoptive family. He had a pretty hard time wrapping his head around the idea that my dad is my dad, but not legally. My adoptive dad is my legal dad. He was pretty sure that my dad is my dad, and my adoptive dad is my foster dad. Fortunately, I'm not one of these "OMG I'm soooooo grateful to be adopted" types who would take 'offense' at his perfectly natural confusion. He simply could not grasp the concept of adoption, and frankly, it was a breath of fresh air to me.

    I'm sure there are people who understand family dynamics of Islam far better than I, but it is my understanding that while a child can be fostered, they cannot have their birthright taken from them. That is what adoption does. Having grown up with my birthright taken from me, I oppose that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amonasro View Post
    I helped my mom get the adoption credit a few years ago. Netted hear a refund nearly $13,000. The child must be deemed special needs to redeem it. You have to submit a lot of paperwork with the refund (and it took more than 6 months) but she eventually got it.
    The child must be special needs to get the full refund without proving expenses. The refund does apply to all adoptions. The info is at the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockEnds View Post
    I'm sure there are people who understand family dynamics of Islam far better than I, but it is my understanding that while a child can be fostered, they cannot have their birthright taken from them. That is what adoption does. Having grown up with my birthright taken from me, I oppose that.
    Gotcha, that makes more sense. Well, still, in respect to the OP, the babies were for all intents and purposes aborted via C-section. But they remained ALIVE. And they were then sold, primarily, to couples who couldn't have their own. I don't see what's immoral or unethical about this, other than profiting from it, perhaps. But the C-section and service they're providing the couples warrants some amount of compensation, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngbuck View Post
    Gotcha, that makes more sense. Well, still, in respect to the OP, the babies were for all intents and purposes aborted via C-section. But they remained ALIVE. And they were then sold, primarily, to couples who couldn't have their own. I don't see what's immoral or unethical about this, other than profiting from it, perhaps. But the C-section and service they're providing the couples warrants some amount of compensation, no?
    Well, generally speaking, people aren't considered potential products to be distributed for cash on the free market.
    In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.

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