Could China Defeat Us?

[willwash]

I was watching a debate on another forum, and one poster said this:



How accurate is this? My understanding was always that we would be able to take any country on the planet one-on-one.

If it really came to all out war with China, both of our countries would be decimated by nuclear attack. If nuclear weapons are left out of the equation, currently China wouldn't stand a chance against the US in a conventional war. We have 10 aircraft carriers to their one. That's enough carriers to completely blockade their coast...no one comes in or out. Since a) their economy is export-dependent and b) they must import food feed their large population, they would not last very long in such a scenario. There is currently no known weapon capable of defeating a modern supercarrier with anything approximating a valid Pd (probability of destruction). This is because each carrier is flanked by a small fleet of destroyers and a cruiser equipped with the AEGIS radar and bazillions of SM-2s (surface to air missiles), plus the CIWS, not to mention about 60 or 70 fighter aircraft per carrier (which could be upped to more by including non-deployed and reserve squadrons in an all out war), Prowler electronic attack aircraft which can jam both radios and radars, and the E-2C Hawkeye which can see anything coming from hundreds of miles away. Nothing can get close enough to launch a threatening weapon. Throw in a couple fast attack subs for subsurface defense, and yes, the carrier strike group could be considered virtually invincible. And as I said, we have 10 of these.

This being said, China is developing weapons at the supersecret level that are allegedly capable of taking out a US supercarrier, which heretofore have been considered virtually invulnerable to attack.

[osan]

This being said, China is developing weapons at the supersecret level that are allegedly capable of taking out a US supercarrier, which heretofore have been considered virtually invulnerable to attack.

Given this as true, is it not curious that the USA is not demanding international access to such sites? Where is the UN's outrage? After all, pint-sized Iran is morallyobliged to open its facilities and "we" appear willing to bomb them back into the stone age... why is this not the case with far larger and more powerful China? If they are building nukes and other "WMDs", where is the international moral outrage and demand that they stop or BE STOPPED?

The stench of international politics is enough to put anyone into a coma.

[carclinic]

America would easily win the battles easily. Small European armies carved up both Africa, India, AND Asia with much smaller forces due to military supremacy.

China might not even be able to defeat Russia on the battlefield, let alone America. China's military technology is about 30 years behind ours. We would decimate them in a conventional war.

America then would lose any sort of occupation, extremely quickly.

China, nor any other country, would be able to occupy America. Like Russia, the country is simply too big and defensible. Americans can be conquered slowly, however, simply by bankrupting their middle class and turning them against each other.

To be perfectly honest, I think this is exactly what the NWO is doing. It's hard to believe that the US gov't, media, and intelligentsia at large are dumb enough to think that de-industrializing the country and putting us in endless wars help make us a stronger and more stable country.

I think it is obvious that those who run the country want to see the opposite, because they know we can't be conquered any other way.

[ClydeCoulter]

Is this assuming that the elites of our country have allegence to this country and would not have already taken up residence in China and left us holding the empty bag?

[Pericles]

Osan and Icymudpuppy have pretty much got it. I make the PRC ambitions vs. the US to be primarily economic and in creasing the nuclear arsenal to have a strategic deterrent against the US to provide cover for regional expansion to take Taiwan, own the South China Sea and its oil deposits, and do some slapdown on Japan and Korea. They are also interested in maintaining control of Tibet with a slapdown of India, and with the demographic challenges in play, may want to slice off part of Siberia from Russia as it is a region rich in natural resources.

The US will never have enough landpower to defeat and occupy China, and the US Navy is powerful enough to deny the sea lanes to any potential invasion of the US.