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    Study Says Children With ADHD Like Taking Anti-psychotic Drugs

    Study Says Children With ADHD Like Taking Anti-psychotic Drugs

    Donna Anderson
    Infowars.com
    October 21, 2012

    You can stop worrying now. A new study indicates that children who have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and take stimulants such as Ritalin and Adderall feel the drugs are beneficial and do not turn them into “zombies” or “robots” as many proponents of the drugs assume.

    In a first-of-its-kind study, researchers went straight to the horse’s mouth for answers. Instead of assuming that children preferred to be doped up during the school day they actually asked them how they felt about their treatment and its effects.

    The study, led by Ilina Singh, a biomedical ethicist from King’s College London was conducted by medical charity Wellcome Trust. Children from 151 families in the United States and Britain were interviewed.

    According to Singh, “ADHD is a very emotive subject which inspires passionate debate. Everyone seems to have an opinion about the condition, what causes it, how to deal with children with ADHD, but the voices of these children are rarely listened to. Who better to tell us what ADHD is like and how medication affects them than the children themselves?”

    An 11-year-old girl named Angie was quoted for the report. Angie said, “With medication, it’s not that you’re a different person. You’re still the same person, but you just act a little better.”

    High school students seem to agree. A June 2012 New York Times article reported on the increased usage of anti-psychotic medications among high school students. Under immense pressure to perform so they could earn college scholarships, many high school students won’t even enter the classroom without first popping or snorting a Ritalin pill and since not all of them have been diagnosed with the disorder, many are buying the pills from other students who have.

    “They’re the A students, sometimes the B students, who are trying to get good grades,” said one senior at Lower Merion High School in Ardmore, a Philadelphia suburb, who said he makes hundreds of dollars a week selling prescription drugs, usually priced at $5 to $20 per pill, to classmates as young as freshmen. “They’re the quote-unquote good kids, basically.”

    Physicians are seeing perfectly healthy children as young as 12-years old ask for a prescription for Ritalin or Adderall because the want to improve their grades.

    But now, children from poor families are being prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to give them an advantage in school. The practice is most prevalent in poorer rural areas where limited funding means there’s no access to alternative therapies such as talk therapies or school counselors.

    And because parents who can afford to put their kids on these anti-psychotics do so at the drop of a hat, the poorer children are at a disadvantage in the classrooms. So to level the playing field, Medicaid picks up the check for their drug habit, too.

    Timothy Leary (October 22, 1920-May 31, 1996) was an American psychologist, known for his controversial views on the benefits of psychedelic drugs like LSD. You may remember one of his pearls of wisdom: “There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short term memory, and I forget the third.”

    It might surprise you to know that the ingredients in Adderall and Vyvanse (amphetamines) and Ritalin and Focalin (Methylphenidates) are categorized by the Drug Enforcement Agency as Class 2 Controlled Substances, right alongside LSD.

    So is it really any wonder that children enjoy taking these drugs? Of course not. If mind-altering drugs made you feel bad nobody would ever become addicted. And that’s exactly what these are – addictive drugs. Drugs that eventually wear off making the body crave more and more just to get through the day.

    Even though the doped up children of 151 families seemed to be happy with the results, they’re hardly a fair representation. Currently, 9 percent of US children between the ages of five and 17, and 5 to 10 percent of children and adolescents in the UK have been “diagnosed” with ADHD so they can legally be put on these drugs regimens.

    Twenty-five years ago it started with a few hard-to-handle boys, and now we’ve progressed to prescribing these drugs on the grounds that poor students in poor school districts need to be doped up to level the playing field. There’s actually a black market for ADHD drugs for elementary school kids and it carries on all the way through college. What next?

    How long before Big Pharma and the FDA have us convinced we need to start lacing baby formula with amphetamines? Sound far-fetched? Not really. .Children as young as 3 and 4 years of age are already being doped up to control their ADHD Soon they’ll be sending a bottle of pills home with your New Baby kit when you bring your baby home from the hospital.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    donnay, have you ever taken adderall or ritalin? just wondering. if you want to study and ace a test the stuff works. kids who are prescribed them are being given an advantage in school.
    Last edited by specsaregood; 10-21-2012 at 10:27 AM.

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    And when they grow up they like taking Xanax. So much, in fact, that people beg their doctors for prescriptions for it so they can sell the pills.

    They also like taking meth. Which is extracted from another Big Pharma product--cold medicine.

    Remember when people got upset at the thought of narcotic pushers targeting children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    donnay, have you ever taken adderall or ritalin? just wondering. if you want to study and ace a test the stuff works. kids who are prescribed them are being given an advantage in school.

    Nope I have not. But many years ago I was coerced, by my child's school, to put my child on these horrific drugs. What I witnessed made my blood boil--I shall not go into detail, but suffice to say my child was harmed by these mind-altering drugs. I found out the hard way that proper diet and nutrition worked far better. Of course no one told me that, I had to find it out on my own--Thank God I did. It was a lesson learned and I would never advocate to put innocent children on these drugs--EVER!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    As a teenager I voluntarily consumed every mind-expanding drug available, some I thoroughly enjoyed others I didn't.

    One thing I never had to worry about was an adult trying to get me to take what they thought best.

    I read the PDR and formed my own opinions based on book learnin' and first-hand knowledge with how the drugs affected me.

    I don't believe teachers or parents should ever seek to medicate children for the sake of control or to "even the playing field" as stated above.

    I also think if a teenager wants to take drugs for some reason the stigma and legal hassles should be removed and it should be between the teen and the parents.

    If the stigma was removed and the legal issues were non-existent it's very possible common sense would prevail......

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    donnay, have you ever taken adderall or ritalin? just wondering. if you want to study and ace a test the stuff works. kids who are prescribed them are being given an advantage in school.
    I never took them and am brilliant.

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    ADHD is just another name for "ability to react against a repressive and unnatural educational system".
    Last edited by jj-; 10-21-2012 at 11:38 AM.

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    I remember when you could still buy ephedra products (ma huang) over the counter (before the government got their mitts on it). Ephedra is an all-natural herbal stimulant. I used to take some before my workouts and sometimes I just took some in the morning instead of drinking coffeee. Wouldnt have this stuff been better for some kids to try instead of amphetamines?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Wouldnt have this stuff been better for some kids to try instead of amphetamines?
    Doesn't matter. If Big Pharma can't get a monopoly on the supply, you will risk jail for it. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    I never took them and am brilliant.
    Which often has little to do with scholastic achievement; which is what my post addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    As a teenager I voluntarily consumed every mind-expanding drug available, some I thoroughly enjoyed others I didn't.

    One thing I never had to worry about was an adult trying to get me to take what they thought best.

    I read the PDR and formed my own opinions based on book learnin' and first-hand knowledge with how the drugs affected me.

    I don't believe teachers or parents should ever seek to medicate children for the sake of control or to "even the playing field" as stated above.

    I also think if a teenager wants to take drugs for some reason the stigma and legal hassles should be removed and it should be between the teen and the parents.

    If the stigma was removed and the legal issues were non-existent it's very possible common sense would prevail......
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    my opinion is the amount of neurotoxins and other chemicals kids are exposed to at a young age, especially where poor families take in more chemically laced items from the govt subsidized foods, cheap fast foods, cheap school lunches etc... We're all given fluoride, many ingest aspartame, dye's, etc... It accumulates in our bodies and everyone reacts differently.... As someone stated above, one's diet, especially at an early age, is what works.
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    I remember when back in the 70's and 80's people constantly say that marijuana was the "gateway" drug for other illegal drugs. I never believed it then, and I certainly do not believe it now. In many studies, it has been shown that Ritalin has the same effects on the brain as cocaine.

    Ritalin and Cocaine Have Identical Effects on the Brain
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rital...n-103929.shtml

    The Cocaine, Amphetamine/Methamphetamine, Ritalin Connection

    http://www.resultsproject.net/index....cocaineritalin

    What's Wrong With Using Ritalin?
    http://www.unhinderedliving.com/ADHDritalin.html

    All the crap the kids are eating today, is it any wonder why their attention span is zero? I know plenty adults who have zero attention spans, and many of them have very poor diets and are definitely malnourished. I have also seen them change that around by eating good nutritious foods, and supplementing with proper vitamin and minerals.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Disgusting, I bet you had long hair too.
    Sure did............Now I've got a 4" part..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Sure did............Now I've got a 4" part..
    Is that the new style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Is that the new style?
    Don't know, don't care...



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    These dam dope pushers have tried to infest my family with this garbage. They tried to make my stepson and two of my grandkids take this crap. Any kid who questions authority or stirs up any trouble at all becomes a target. We used to call that normal. Thankfully my better half and my two daughters had enough sense to tell them to go pound sand.
    "The Patriarch"

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    I tried growing it long again a couple years back
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Don't know, don't care...
    I've been lucky, still have most of mine. My brothers getting a pretty large forehead though.

    I tried growing it long again a couple years back, didn't look very good.
    Last edited by Origanalist; 10-21-2012 at 02:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    These dam dope pushers have tried to infest my family with this garbage.
    Teachers/Doctors, social workers et-al?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Teachers/Doctors, social workers et-al?
    Teachers, school system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Teachers, school system.
    Oh-yes, the "don't question my authority crowd"....

    Respect is earned............But apparently not in the college they attended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Oh-yes, the "don't question my authority crowd"....

    Respect is earned............But apparently not in the college they attended.
    That's part of it, but also when kids start staring out the window daydreaming or talking to other kids in class etc. they seem to think this is abnormal behaviour that needs medicating.
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    nvm
    Last edited by Danke; 10-21-2012 at 02:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    donnay, have you ever taken adderall or ritalin? just wondering. if you want to study and ace a test the stuff works. kids who are prescribed them are being given an advantage in school.

    They also aren't anti-psychotics... they're speed. Quite a difference. In other news, truckers like $#@! that keeps them awake and alert.

    I'm 100% against giving drugs to kids to make them more manageable. It's not the right approach. It's overdone. It might possibly cause addiction problems later. Making kids take drugs for your own convenience or profit is pretty $#@!ed up. Allowing adult college students to consume whatever foods they find helpful is an entirely different issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    That's part of it, but also when kids start staring out the window daydreaming or talking to other kids in class etc. they seem to think this is abnormal behaviour that needs medicating.
    Same mentality, by not paying rapt attention to their superiors the kids are undermining authority and exhibiting disrespect..

    Hope you got them out of that environment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Same mentality, by not paying rapt attention to their superiors the kids are undermining authority and exhibiting disrespect..

    Hope you got them out of that environment..
    Well, the stepson is pushing thirty now. And the grandkids are still in the same school districts, they just aren't being medicated. And somehow they seemed to have gotten along ok without the drugs.
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    These meds are literally making our citizens crazy. The amount of kids, teens, and adults on adderall is staggering to me.
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    The parents and schools have failed, DRUG THE KIDS!!!!!!!
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    Both my brother and my brother-in-law were given Ritalin in highschool because of performance problems.
    Both of them hated being on Ritalin so passionately that they decided consciously to figure out how to do better in school without it, if the alternative was being compelled to be on it.

    One got his MDiv about 5 years ago and is an Orthodox priest, and the other got his Masters' about 4 years ago in Chemistry (got a double chem/physics major before that), so I guess in the sickest sense, putting them on Ritalin worked.
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