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    Fox News (w video) 'How Will Ron Paul and His Supporters Vote in the Presidential Election

    Former presidential candidate and Texas congressman, Ron Paul (R) has a message for Mitt Romney ahead of tonight’s presidential debate. Paul said on Fox Business Network that the Republican nominee needs to, “make sure he sounds a little bit different than [Obama] and be convincing that his policies are a lot different.”

    Paul said there’s a frustration among supporters who don’t see a difference between the president and Romney. He criticized Romney for being similar to Obama when it comes to foreign policy and the Federal Reserve, but also philosophically.

    How will Ron Paul supporters vote in this election? Paul said, “Some will be angry at the Republicans for the way they retreated at the convention and they might not show up. Some may vote libertarian, some may go with Romney, and actually, some of the young people because of foreign policy, may even go with Obama. […] I know one thing for certain, that they’re not all going to the one place because they’re very individualistic and they don’t see the consequences exactly the same.”
    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/03...tial-election/



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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f098h-P65c
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    I know one thing for certain, that they’re not all going to the one place because they’re very individualistic and they don’t see the consequences exactly the same.”
    Pretty astute. But that's no surprise.
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    Thanks for posting I watched the interview this morning, was hoping someone would post.

    Wish he would of really emphasized how the GOP/RNC committed fraud at the Tampa convention. Didn't seem like too soon, as Ron first mentioned Tampa... FOX wanted to push on, if RP continued to talk about 2 step Tampa screw-over?
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    'The way they were treated' becomes 'The way they retreated.' Honest mistake of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    'The way they were treated' becomes 'The way they retreated.' Honest mistake of course.
    Caught that, too. Add it to the stinkin' list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    'The way they were treated' becomes 'The way they retreated.' Honest mistake of course.
    No...I think it was appropriate. The Republican party WILL be in Retreat in the near future after this deboggle.
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    How will Ron Paul supporters vote in this election? Paul said, “Some will be angry at the Republicans for the way they retreated at the convention and they might not show up. Some may vote libertarian, some may go with Romney, and actually, some of the young people because of foreign policy, may even go with Obama. […] I know one thing for certain, that they’re not all going to the one place because they’re very individualistic and they don’t see the consequences exactly the same.”

    Ron Paul could not be more correct , i am voting for Gary Lohnson and libertarian runners.

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    Ron Paul on Election, Voters (Fox video)

    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/18753...ection-voters/

    was all this on the other clip? What it would take to get him to support Romney? (Quite a list, don't worry...)
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden



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    Someone in the comments linked to this:

    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Pretty astute. But that's no surprise.
    Oh yeah.

    This was great.

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    At least they're acknowledging on Mind Control TV the Ron Paul Crew factor, not that they will get any of our support.
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    Ron Paul: Who Will He (And His Supporters) Vote For - Fox News 10/03/2012


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo Shrimp View Post
    Tube:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Someone in the comments linked to this:


    Thank you for that. I don't think I've seen Alan Keyes speak so calmly before. And he still comes of as a great orator somehow.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Thank you! I will put this under the other one of yours on the front page.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo Shrimp View Post
    Tube:

    I love that Ron is moving the goalposts on the Fed. Now that Romney's given milquetoast support of auditing the Fed, Ron's saying that Romney needs to attack central banking and central economic planning itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    I love that Ron is moving the goalposts on the Fed. Now that Romney's given milquetoast support of auditing the Fed, Ron's saying that Romney needs to attack central banking and central economic planning itself.
    I don't think Ron moved the goal post, he just said plainly that what Romney did wasn't nearly enough.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    The video player doesn't load when visiting the page or selecting the Ron Paul thumbnail image on the page. All the other video loads. Hmmm, imagine that. F-ing Fox does it again.

    Here is the transcript for the interview........

    Ron Paul now Republican congressman from Texas and of course a former presidential candidate himself he's calling in today on the telephone.

    From Texas congressman Paul always good to talk to you if they poll.

    Supporter is watching the debate tonight and you know needs to be convinced by Mitt Romney -- Romney have to do do you think.

    They curious sound a little bit different than the other and be convincing that these policies -- lot different.

    So many people join this freedom movement were frustrated -- with the whole process because.

    They can't see enough difference that -- have to.

    Can't be different unfortunately when it comes to you know whether it's the foreign policy.

    They're very similar whether it has to do with Federal Reserve is similar.

    So I I think -- our supporters -- too much similarity.

    And I think he has to show that he is quite different just not on management style that really philosophically that's split let people.

    How do you think those supporters who have a lot of enthusiasm for you in the primaries when you've.

    When you run for president how do you think they'll break down in terms of their support in this election and and is -- 8020 Romney is to get closer to 5050 mean who what do they may think they'll move towards.

    I think the best word to break down you know political price go different places.

    Some will be angry at the Republicans for the way they retreated at the convention -- right -- might Dutch shell out so many vote libertarian.

    You know may go with Romney -- there's actually -- young people.

    Because of foreign policy she might go with Obama.

    So it it's hard about it I know one thing for certain.

    That they're not all going to the one place because they're very individualistic and they don't see.

    The consequences of that because saying so I think -- the very difficult to predict.

    Could be a big deal by the -- some special some of these swing states if they don't.

    Show off -- gonna vote for.

    The group seven Baghdad at least families that decide not to announce that.

    -- yeah.

    I'm I'm -- this sort of that tight for a little bit low.

    Now that's -- if you don't want -- and obviously in the some people amid a big deal about how the fact you know how you haven't endorsed Romney but it.

    It hadn't really not decided or you just -- not to tell us.

    Giving -- away about voting for somebody I don't obviously didn't.

    You know I have an announcement support for -- and they know.

    And think that's very unlikely engine building innovating -- vote for Obama so.

    It's it's back to their frustration level.

    Not seeing and dramatic choice in the way this system works best.

    Yeah I think you know the inability like tonight there's -- debate going on.

    And if you come to this conclusion that the candidates aren't all that different.

    Slightly to just listen to two of them -- there are people who.

    You know at -- here are capable of winning because there are a lot of them now Eric Johnson you're talking yeah I ended in this country yes.

    You have probably left democracies and utilities other countries that we're trying to badger and being good.

    You know -- good democracy.

    vote for him then probably.

    -- you Gary Johnson you probably support them irony about there you know.

    Interstate is there anything but an investor one more question for -- because we have all these there's talk about the undecided voters out there I think Reuters said it's about 6% of the electorate and any other different polls say different things.

    If there's something as you -- you're not gonna vote for the president is -- something that Mitt Romney could still do.

    At this late hour to convince you you.

    Ron Paul to support him.

    Bring the troops so you know -- this.

    Preaching of the foreign policy where he was just being -- and our presence overseas and that's alarm.

    Big big thing with especially the young people have been in the freedom movement.

    Foreign policy would have to change hand.

    He'd have to get more than token support for a token audit of the Federal Reserve you'd have to say well there's something wrong with the central.

    -- and economic planning because that is the reason we have -- Difficulty.

    You know in the economy because of Federal Reserve policy no likelihood of hear -- bear very very slim.

    And maybe maybe seeing how would you balance the budget.

    I don't give our campaign we had a -- plans of cutting a trillion dollars and -- about it in three years with.

    You know we're in -- who -- this crisis.

    In movies or whatever we're gonna say anything.

    Well maybe we ought to cut something.

    They're not there is no proposal to cut any actual it always is tinker around with these massive.

    Automatic increases in American people are starting to wake up and realizes all fiction and that they're not agree.

    Our congressman Paul thanks as always appreciate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutional Paulicy View Post
    The video player doesn't load when visiting the page or selecting the Ron Paul thumbnail image on the page. All the other video loads. Hmmm, imagine that. F-ing Fox does it again.

    Here is the transcript for the interview........
    I merged the threads, there's a tube in the OP you can watch now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    I merged the threads, there's a tube in the OP you can watch now.
    Much appreciated.
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    Obama and Romney deliberately soil the truth about who they are, big government progressivists. After watching both men roll around on the bed together last night in the carnal lust of political treachery against the American people, I got up from my couch and went to the bathroom to flush the toilet. I felt a little better after that.

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    Seemed to be a fairly respectful interview, except for the part where he tried to pressure Dr. Paul into naming who he'll vote for.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    You know why Obama does so poorly speaking without a script? He has to constantly choose his next sentence very carefully to maintain the lies that he speaks with every word, he has to maintain an entire conscious cognitive dissonance within to maintain the fake facade he has to present, as he is very aware that he spews lies at every word. And with a national history now every one in the country can see through his lies by just checking his words against actualities of the first term.

    Romney on the other hand has no such problems. He has an internal pragmatic justification for every decision and position, without regards to the past, he makes that allows him to believe in what he says and thus can speak more smoothly and spin more fluently.



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    Quote Originally Posted by libertyjam View Post
    Romney on the other hand has no such problems. He has an internal pragmatic justification for every decision and position, without regards to the past, he makes that allows him to believe in what he says and thus can speak more smoothly and spin more fluently.
    What's wrong with this? If anything, last night's debate made me realize we should focus getting liberty guys elected to the Senate, where you only need a few to be significant. The presidency is designed to be won by a pragmatist who has to round up everyone to the table. In the Senate, guys like Rand, etc can work on getting as much of our positions to that table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutional Paulicy View Post
    The video player doesn't load when visiting the page or selecting the Ron Paul thumbnail image on the page. All the other video loads. Hmmm, imagine that. F-ing Fox does it again.

    Here is the transcript for the interview........
    And now they're trying to convince us Ron Paul is as unfamiliar with the English language as the rest of the Republicans out there--via an incompetent transcriptionist. Nice.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    And now they're trying to convince us Ron Paul is as unfamiliar with the English language as the rest of the Republicans out there--via an incompetent transcriptionist. Nice.
    Their transcripts are computer generated. You should see some of the weird stuff their software comes up with sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermario21 View Post
    What's wrong with this? If anything, last night's debate made me realize we should focus getting liberty guys elected to the Senate, where you only need a few to be significant. The presidency is designed to be won by a pragmatist who has to round up everyone to the table. In the Senate, guys like Rand, etc can work on getting as much of our positions to that table.
    That may be true, and certainly is our only hope for the next 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermario21 View Post
    What's wrong with this? If anything, last night's debate made me realize we should focus getting liberty guys elected to the Senate, where you only need a few to be significant. The presidency is designed to be won by a pragmatist who has to round up everyone to the table. In the Senate, guys like Rand, etc can work on getting as much of our positions to that table.
    Very true, we have to be helping out Kurt Bills right now otherwise the GOP establishment and media will say another Ron Paul type can't win.

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    Anybody noticed Ron using the term "Freedom movement" twice? Not liberty, freedom. I saw a video somewhere where someone analyzed the connotations of words that some of the paul supporters used. One of the conclusions was that freedom is a better word than liberty to use politically. Don't remember why, but I think the analysis has gotten to Ron and convinced him to drop liberty for freedom.

    He's still busy with branding the idea of liberty or freedom if you will and how to draw more people into the movement.



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