http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/del...-to-discipline
It seems the bill makes a criminal out of anyone who causes a child pain. I guess doctors and nurses who give shots to all these kid should be nervous.,
"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
designed to make of their victory,
there would have been no surrender at
Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870
I see. So, letting the toddler to young to understand play with electrical outlets is better for the toddler than surprising the toddler with a light swat to the diaper. I'd have never guessed that, myself.
Are there no parents at all in the Delaware state legislature?
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
Stephan Molyneux approves.....errr...wait...
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No football I guess.
Why don't we just dress the kids up in bras and tin-foil hats. They can toss a balloon back and forth, while complementing each other and hugging. Sounds great.
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Only a matter of time before you see this legislation proposed on a federal level.
"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
designed to make of their victory,
there would have been no surrender at
Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870
Which state banned hugging on school grounds? Or was that just a school district?
DE age of consent is 18, that's fairly rare and high as states go. It used to be 21. Imagine being a college student in DE... This is not too surprising, as DE has a long history of making laws "to protect the children".
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IR cameras linked in to the local Fusion Center, are to be mounted in every home with minor children, to monitor for compliance.
It's coming.
And nobody $#@!ing cares.
USA's future is screwed. More and more kids feel self-entitled and are empowered by the liberals... Taking power out of "grown-ups".
Spanking exists for thousands of years and humans turned out fine.
Please define "minor children"....
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I beg to differ.
Founder and leader of the militant wing of the Salvation Army.
12yo to 21 yo - varies by state...
-t
Why doesn't the state just take all new born children and raise them how they please? Damn, now I'm giving them ideas.
Terminus tela viaticus!
As long as us adults are free to spank away on each other - I have no problem with this.
Screw the roses - send me the thorns! - It's a book..As long as us adults are free to spank away on each other - I have no problem with this.
-t
OH YEAH! - $#@! THE STATE!
-t
Well,it does take a Village.As long as us adults are free to spank away on each other - I have no problem with this.
How does spanking fit into the Non-Aggression Principal? Spanking is not self-defence, it's the initiation of force.
Are we teaching our kids the Non-Aggression Principal or the all-mighty "do as I say, not as I do" principal?
Last edited by AlexAmore; 09-29-2012 at 02:15 AM.
Founder and leader of the militant wing of the Salvation Army.
I'm not a subscriber to this "Non-Aggression" philosophy, so don't include me in the we you speak of.
Just wondering, how many kids do you have?
Stopping spanking = good
Passing law to do so = bad
The epitome of libertarian populism
Lol you don't have to quote Non-Aggression Principal like I just pulled it out of my ass. The Non-Aggression Principal IS Libertarianism, it's the foundational philosophy for all things Libertarian. If you don't subscribe to it, then you're not a Libertarian. If that's the case, I wasn't talking to you in my previous post.
Here's the wiki on it, so you can catch up.
How many kids do I have? Are you implying that if I have no kids then I'm not qualified to discuss this? That's an Ad Hominem. Here's an Ad Hominem example: Perhaps you spank because you lack communication skills (e.g Ad Hominem attacks).
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To Feeding the Abscess. I believe the Non-Aggression Principal SHOULD be law.
Last edited by AlexAmore; 09-29-2012 at 03:35 AM.
Founder and leader of the militant wing of the Salvation Army.
Our differences are semantic. Under our current monopoly law system, there's no way I'd support legislation restricting spanking. Under a free market law system, I'd probably be okay with it.
The epitome of libertarian populism
Geeze, defensive much?
I'm not a libertarian either so any attempt to pigeon-hole me isn't going to work..
I don't need to "catch-up" as you put it, I've actually lived life for over 50 years, often in ways you can't imagine.
I'm guessing, (because you didn't actually answer) that you don't have kids?
It's really a shame that you would advocate for any more laws. You've been a member here for quite a while, hasn't it registered that politicians passing new legislation is a really large part of the mess our country is in?
Have a nice day.
Last month, Gov. Jack Markell signed Senate Bill 234 into law, making Delaware the first state in the nation to effectively make it illegal for parents to use corporal discipline on their children.
The bill was opposed by several organizations, including the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA), which worked with the Delaware Home Education Association and the Delaware Family Policy Council in a failed bid to defeat the legislation earlier this year.
The legislation - sponsored by state Senate Majority Leader Patricia M. Blevins, a Senator representing Delaware’s 7th District -- alters the state’s current child abuse and neglect laws by changing the definition of “physical injury” on Delaware’s existing statutes.
Under the legislation, a “physical injury” is described as the intentional infliction of “pain or impairment of physical condition” on a child. Under the new law, child abuse is categorized as a separate crime in Delaware, whereas child abuse cases before the law was enacted were prosecuted using the same statutes that pertain to adult victims.
The new legislation creates three new categories of child abuse. Parents that intentionally inflict “a physical injury” on a young person under the age of 18 are now guilty of class A misdemeanors, which may subject offenders to a one-year prison sentence. Those that are found guilty of intentionally or recklessly injuring a child who is under the age of 4 or has “significant” developmental disabilities -- considered class G felonies within the state -- may find themselves imprisoned for two years.
“The statute also expands the state of mind necessary for certain offenses against children allowing for more effective prosecution of parents who subject their children to abuse by others and fail to protect their children,” the law reads.
“These new statutes combine current statues and redefine physical injury and serious physical injury to reflect the medical realities of pain and impairment suffered by children,” the law reads.
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fun thread ahead
Spanking actually does curb behaviors that are inappropriate.
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Many here might want to move just for this law.
I'm not one of 'em.
And it does it pdq.
Ridiculous.
While I usually snicker at the whole concept of the non-aggression principle, I find it especially hilarious to apply it to dealing with toddlers. Those little demons will eat you alive.
There are only two ways to persuade people. Logic and force. 2 year olds don't comprehend logic.
dang. too bad ron paul didn't know that.
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