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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by rhelwig View Post
    I think it helped me that I read her books in order. First Anthem, then We the Living, then Fountainhead, then Atlas. It allowed me to build up to the longer books.
    I think had I done this I would have quit after We the Living. That book I did not really enjoy.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    For weeks. I keep reading books in between. What's the secret to staying focused? It's become almost a personal vendetta now. I must finish it. I took a second degree in English and read so many books. The only one I've never been able to finish is Moby Dick. That book blew. I don't want to add to that list.
    The secret is to skip pages when it gets tedious.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I prefer to read it while washing laundry. Definitely not what I consider a page-turner...but not awful either.
    You know the machine washes the clothing without needing to be supervised...

  6. #34
    Tedious is the Grapes of Wrath. Ugh. I simply read every other chapter to get through it.

  7. #35
    UGGGHHH I just struggled through 20 more pages. It's like watching paint dry.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    —Charles Mackay

    "god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
    -Anonymous

  8. #36
    if you want to understand Rand, you can skip the fiction and go with the non-fiction works.
    "The Virtue of Selfishness" is a short read, and it is basically a lecture on the ideas of objectivism. if you were to read only one of Rand's works- this should be it.
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    UGGGHHH I just struggled through 20 more pages. It's like watching paint dry.
    Why bother?

    I think books need to be good enough to read.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    if you want to understand Rand, you can skip the fiction and go with the non-fiction works.
    "The Virtue of Selfishness" is a short read, and it is basically a lecture on the ideas of objectivism. if you were to read only one of Rand's works- this should be it.
    That might be a good idea, and less time consuming if it is awful....

    Fountainhead was ok, but got kind of L.Ron Hubberd-y at the end.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

  11. #39
    I read it maybe 12 years ago from the time I got home from work till I fell asleep every day until done, was so pissed at the way it ended that I almost burned it, but it wasn't mine so I returned it. Last novel I have ever read since then.
    Last edited by ClydeCoulter; 09-27-2012 at 05:37 PM.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    That might be a good idea, and less time consuming if it is awful....

    Fountainhead was ok, but got kind of L.Ron Hubberd-y at the end.
    it is the core of the ideas she is trying to convey with her fiction works like atlas shrugged.
    i enjoyed the lecture. audio book works best for me.
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by MozoVote View Post
    Tedious is the Grapes of Wrath. Ugh. I simply read every other chapter to get through it.
    Yeah, and if the tediousness isn't bad enough, it's full of socialist, pro-New Deal propaganda. Then again, that's true of most required reading in schools.
    "When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight, because once they've got you violent then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humor. "

    ---John Lennon


    "I EAT NEOCONS FOR BREAKFAST!!!"

    ---Me

  15. #42
    i think she had a love/hate relationship that created an attraction and revulsion
    at a distance concerning the real life person she had based ellsworth toohey on!
    http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=004FMp Myself, i'd wonder if
    he was 100% serious or saying things for their shock value, knowing how cults are.
    Last edited by Aratus; 09-27-2012 at 05:41 PM. Reason: AYN RAND created start and memorable characters

  16. #43
    Okay it's getting better, thankfully.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    —Charles Mackay

    "god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
    -Anonymous

  17. #44
    maybe you don't like her style, and if that's so probably you shouldn't try to force yourself to like it. i wasn't crazy about her style, but i could read her.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    Okay it's getting better, thankfully.
    how far are you into it? I never reached that point. Let me know if it is worth wading through the earlier part, when you are done.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

  19. #46
    Thanks for saving me the grief.

    I sort of liked what I heard about the concept of the book.

    I'm thinking Jaws was a book that was an easy read. It's an old one but so much more than the movie.

    Maybe give yourself a break with something readable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaws_%28novel%29

  20. #47
    The plot stages about piracy returning and sections of the oceans becoming too dangerous for commerce seemed outlandish and "sci-fi" to me at the time I read Atlas Shrugged. But when the real life Somali pirates cropped up, that made me remember the book...
    Last edited by MozoVote; 09-29-2012 at 11:20 AM.

  21. #48
    Hahaha, I've encountered a predicament where I always go to the section with Atlas Shrugged and debate buying it or not. I never did and probably never will. I've simply heard too many varied opinions about it. I've read some long books, and I plan on reading The Lord of the Rings, but, I don't think I'd have the patience to get through Atlas Shrugged from what I've heard.

    So, I bought Ayn Rand's Anthem instead to get me acquainted with her works.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!



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  23. #49
    God help anybody who tries to make it all the way through Atlas Shrugged - they're going to need it. Personally I opted to tear three teeth out with my bare hands as the less painful alternative.

  24. #50
    If you have trouble reading Atlas Shrugged, I still recommend buying the audiobook if you are able to listen while driving/working. Audiobooks are a bit expensive but I don't think you would be disappointed.

  25. #51
    audiobooks are a bit expensive
    Search for Atlas Shrugged audiobook torrent. Problem solved by internet.

  26. #52
    the fountainhead is better imo. But Atlas Shrugged is a work of brilliance, Murray Rothbard called it one of the greatest books ever written.
    "Look, the American people have chosen to have a fiat money standard because they want a welfare state. You cannot have a gold standard and a welfare state at the same time. You have to make the choice. We have made a decision as a society that we’ll be dealing with the welfare state." -Alan Greenspan

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    how far are you into it? I never reached that point. Let me know if it is worth wading through the earlier part, when you are done.
    Page 400 something. It is getting better. It goes in spurts. I'm fascinated for 30 pages, then bored to tears for 45. So up and down, but I'm glad I'm doing it. The philosophies are pretty fascinating.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    —Charles Mackay

    "god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
    -Anonymous

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    I got it on audio book. but i'm on the road a lot.
    I second this advice. I would have never gotten through it otherwise. I picked up the audio version at the library and listened to it in the car every time I went somewhere. I thought the reader did a good job.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    Page 400 something. It is getting better. It goes in spurts. I'm fascinated for 30 pages, then bored to tears for 45. So up and down, but I'm glad I'm doing it. The philosophies are pretty fascinating.
    Well, I read the Fountainhead. Let me know when you are done. I consider it an author's obligation to keep the reader interested, personally.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

  30. #56
    I did it! AND in time for the release of part 2. I never thought I could do it, but once I got into it (like page 500ish?) It got much easier.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    —Charles Mackay

    "god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
    -Anonymous



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    I did it! AND in time for the release of part 2. I never thought I could do it, but once I got into it (like page 500ish?) It got much easier.
    Part 2 comes out tomorrow here, probably going to go see it.

    I opted to watch the movie instead of read the book. I enjoyed Part 1.
    "We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% [the same on issues]." Ron Paul

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    I did it! AND in time for the release of part 2. I never thought I could do it, but once I got into it (like page 500ish?) It got much easier.
    You'll like it more the 2nd time.

  34. #59
    This thread had me snorting with laughter (semi sorry for the visual folks). Am trying to get through Atlas on audio and good gravy does my mind wander. She is rambling about minutiae and the main character is hard to become emotionally attached to in any significant manner so as to really want to finish. I have restarted the audio so many times as I find my mind wandering again that I almost feel I should buy the written version so at least my eyes must focus but I have been known to have my mind wander that way as well. Thank goodness it isn't just me. Glad to hear it might pick up my interest if I hold on for a bit.
    We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota


    Go Forward With Courage

    When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
    when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
    So long as mists envelop you, be still;
    be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
    -- as it surely will.
    Then act with courage.

    Ponca Chief White Eagle

  35. #60
    This thread reminds me of Honor's English when I was a freshman in highschool. I didn't really like or dislike any of the books we covered except one: Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy. It is the only book I've ever actually hated enough to burn at the end of the semester.

    And to think that throughout grade school, high school, and college, I was never given Ayn Rand as a reading assignment. Nor was I given 1984 or anything similar. No. I get Tess of the D'Urbervilles.
    Last edited by TheNung; 01-10-2014 at 12:22 PM.

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