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    How plastic food containers (even BPA-free) could be making you fat, infertile and sick

    http://chriskresser.com/how-plastic-...rtile-and-sick

    In previous articles here, here and here, I wrote about the dangers of an environmental toxin called bisphenol-A (BPA). BPA is a chemical that is found in several plastics and plastic additives. It’s in the water bottles some folks carry to gyms, the canned tomatoes and coconut milk they cook with, and in the baby bottles moms use to feed their infants.

    We’ve known for decades that BPA has estrogenic activity. In vivo animal studies and in vitro cell-culture research has linked low-level estrogenic activity associated with BPA exposure to all kinds of fun stuff, like diabetes, ADHD, heart disease, infertility and cancer.

    There is now significant evidence suggesting that even low levels of BPA-exposure can cause harm, and this is particularly true in vulnerable populations like pregnant women, infants and the chronically ill. (1)

    Because of this research, and the growing public awareness that BPA should be avoided, a new crop of “BPA-free” plastic food containers and baby bottles has been introduced. However, a recent study published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives in July has shown that even BPA-free plastics have chemicals with estrogenic activity (EA), and can cause serious health problems as a result. (2)

    What is “estrogenic activity” (EA)?
    Chemicals with estrogenic activity (EA) are those that mimic or antagonize the actions of naturally occurring estrogens. These chemicals are capable of binding with one or more of the nuclear estrogen receptors in the body.

    The best way to think of chemicals with EA is as a counterfeit key fitting into a loose lock. When these chemicals activate the estrogen receptor, they produce an increase in circulating estrogen, which in turn can cause problems such as early puberty in females, reduced sperm counts, altered function of the reproductive organs, obesity, increased rates of certain cancers and problems with infant and childhood development. (3)

    As I mentioned above, vulnerable populations such as pregnant women, developing fetuses, infants and children are especially sensitive to even very low doses of chemicals with EA. (4)

    BPA-free is not EA-free
    In the Environmental Health Perspectives study, Yaniger et al. set out to determine the estrogenic activity of commonly used plastic consumer products.

    They bought more than 500 plastic products at places like Wal-Mart, Whole Foods, Trader Joe’s, Target, and other major retailers. They selected from all categories of plastic, including tupperware containers, bags and wraps.

    Then they cut the containers into pieces, put them into liquids that contain similar chemicals found in food and drinks, and subjected them to stresses that mimic normal use, like UV light (sunlight), microwaving, or moist heat (like boiling or dishwashing).

    Their results showed that over 90 percent of the products leached estrogenic chemicals before they were even stressed, and after being stressed essentially all of the products showed estrogenic activity.

    According to Stuart Yaniger, one of the lead authors of the study:

    Baby bottles, plastic bags, plastic wrap, clamshell food containers, stand-up pouches: Just about anything you can think of that’s made of plastic that food or beverages are wrapped up in, we found this activity. It was shocking to us.

    What plastics do and don’t have EA? It’s impossible to tell.
    Perhaps the most troubling outcome of this study is that it’s currently impossible to determine which consumer plastic products are likely to have chemicals with EA, and which are not. The exact chemical composition of most plastic products is proprietary and thus not known, and a single plastic item containing many parts (e.g. a baby bottle) may consist of >100 chemicals, all of which can leach from the product.

    In light of the researchers’ finding that nearly all of the 500 plastic products they tested leached when stressed, and 90 percent of them leached even without stress, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that most plastic products you can buy in the store have chemicals with EA.

    It’s important to reiterate that this is true even with BPA-free plastics. In fact, the Environmental Health Perspectives study found that some BPA-free products had even more EA than BPA-containing products!

    Should you be concerned about chemicals with EA?
    There are still a lot of unknowns in the discussion of the EA of various chemicals in plastic products, such as the number of chemicals having EA, their relative EA, their release rate under different conditions, and their half-lives in human beings of different ages.

    However, there are 3 strong arguments for being “better safe than sorry” when it comes to plastics and EA (5):

    in vitro data overwhelmingly show that exposures to chemicals with EA (even in very low doses) change the structure and function of human cell types;
    many studies present clear cellular, molecular and systemic mechanisms by which chemicals having EA produce changes in cells, organs and behaviors; and,
    recent epidemiological studies strongly suggest that chemicals with EA produce measurable changes in the health of various human populations.
    Perhaps the study authors summed it up best in their conclusion:

    Many scientists believe that it is not appropriate to bet our health and that of future generations on an assumption that known cellular effects of chemicals having EA released from most plastics will have no severe adverse health effects.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    What you can do to reduce your exposure to chemicals with EA
    Here’s a list of things you can do to reduce your exposure – and especially your baby’s and children’s exposure – to chemicals with EA.

    Use glass containers and canning jars at home for food storage. Be aware that the lids of Mason and Kerr brand canning jars contain BPA and chemicals with EA. There are BPA-free lids, but they still may contain chemicals with EA, and I’ve been told they’re made with formaldehyde. Weck makes 100% glass jars that are a good alternative. Crate and Barrel sells them here.
    Use stainless steel containers in the freezer instead of freezer bags.
    Use a stainless steel water bottle (like the Klean Kanteen) instead of plastic bottles.
    Don’t drink bottled water from plastic bottles, especially when they’ve been exposed to sunlight.
    Parents: use glass baby bottles instead of plastic. Evenflo is a commonly available brand you can buy at Target, Wal-Mart, Walgreens, Rite-Aid, etc. and online at Amazon and other retailers.
    Special note for Sous Vide users: After reading this study, I’m feeling very uncomfortable about the idea of eating anything that comes out of a plastic bag that has been sitting in a hot water bath for several hours. This is a crushing blow, as I love cooking with the Sous Vide. But in light of the evidence that even BPA-free plastics bags leach chemicals with EA even without added stress like a hot water bath, I think erring on the side of caution is probably wise.

    UPDATE 10-28-11: make sure to read the comments section for some good recommendations.

    Resources for those who want to avoid plastic entirely
    My Plastic-Free Life
    Plastic Is Forever
    Life Without Plastic
    Categories: Fertility, Pregnancy & Childbirth, Toxins



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    Thanks for posting.

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    Pyrex - no BPA, durable, American made.

  5. #4
    Nice OP. Fluids in glass bottles taste better too!
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    Bump. We use glass, stainless and cast iron.

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    Yes, it is wise to keep away from all plastics and much as we can. Glass, stainless, porcelain and cast iron (less so).
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    I wonder if Hemp Plastic would be a safer alternative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travlyr View Post
    I wonder if Hemp Plastic would be a safer alternative?
    Wow! I didn't even know there was hemp plastic! The only drawback is that it is produced in China. *SIGH* I frankly, do not trust things coming out of China, after they have been caught with putting Melamine in products (dog food and baby formula) knowing it was poisons and was allowed to be distributed in this country!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Wow! I didn't even know there was hemp plastic! The only drawback is that it is produced in China. *SIGH* I frankly, do not trust things coming out of China, after they have been caught with putting Melamine in products (dog food and baby formula) knowing it was poisons and was allowed to be distributed in this country!
    Lulz... That is because it is illegal to grow hemp here in the land of the free. Hemp makes bio-degradable and even compostable plastic. I am pretty sure that Waste Management Systems ™ does not want us to use compostable plastic. Their landfills would shrink. Sad really. We're not a free country.
    Last edited by Travlyr; 11-04-2011 at 09:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travlyr View Post
    Lulz... That is because it is illegal to grow hemp here in the land of the free. Hemp makes bio-degradable and even compostable plastic. I am pretty sure that Waste Management Systems ™ does not want us to use compostable plastic. Their landfills would shrink. Sad really. We're not a free country.
    It would be nice if we were free, indeed. The people that think we are are only fooling themselves! If we had a truly free market, and no government intrusion we could really capitalize on this industry!! Hemp has so many uses and it would put a lot of monopolies out-of-business!!!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    It would be nice if we were free, indeed. The people that think we are are only fooling themselves! If we had a truly free market, and no government intrusion we could really capitalize on this industry!! Hemp has so many uses and it would put a lot of monopolies out-of-business!!!
    Auto insurance companies and body & fender repair shops for instance? Just imagine the health benefits (stress reduction) from fender benders that didn't really do any significant damage to the cars. We've been hoodwinked. Government regulations =/= Good products.


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    ^^^^Very true. Why people cannot understand how controlled out market is, I will never understand. It doesn't take a person with 12 degrees to figure it out!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    ^^^^Very true. Why people cannot understand how controlled out market is, I will never understand. It doesn't take a person with 12 degrees to figure it out!
    That's for sure. As a matter of fact, that is the purpose of the degree. Indoctrination to the MAX.

    There is absolutely NO excuse for industrial hemp to be illegal to grow. It is God's gift to man and the environment. Do they teach that in schools, colleges, or agriculture universities like University of Illinois or Colorado State University? Sadly no.
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    How Plastic Food Containers Could Be Making You Fat, Infertile and Sick

    How Plastic Food Containers Could Be Making You Fat, Infertile and Sick

    chriskresser.com
    Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:46 CDT

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/23...rtile-and-Sick

    In previous articles here, here and here, I wrote about the dangers of an environmental toxin called bisphenol-A (BPA). BPA is a chemical that is found in several plastics and plastic additives. It's in the water bottles some folks carry to gyms, the canned tomatoes and coconut milk they cook with, and in the baby bottles moms use to feed their infants.

    We've known for decades that BPA has estrogenic activity. In vivo animal studies and in vitro cell-culture research has linked low-level estrogenic activity associated with BPA exposure to all kinds of fun stuff, like diabetes, ADHD, heart disease, infertility and cancer.

    There is now significant evidence suggesting that even low levels of BPA-exposure can cause harm, and this is particularly true in vulnerable populations like pregnant women, infants and the chronically ill. (1)

    Because of this research, and the growing public awareness that BPA should be avoided, a new crop of "BPA-free" plastic food containers and baby bottles has been introduced. However, a recent study published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives in July has shown that even BPA-free plastics have chemicals with estrogenic activity (EA), and can cause serious health problems as a result. (2)

    What is "estrogenic activity" (EA)?

    Chemicals with estrogenic activity (EA) are those that mimic or antagonize the actions of naturally occurring estrogens. These chemicals are capable of binding with one or more of the nuclear estrogen receptors in the body.

    The best way to think of chemicals with EA is as a counterfeit key fitting into a loose lock. When these chemicals activate the estrogen receptor, they produce an increase in circulating estrogen, which in turn can cause problems such as early puberty in females, reduced sperm counts, altered function of the reproductive organs, obesity, increased rates of certain cancers and problems with infant and childhood development. (3)

    As I mentioned above, vulnerable populations such as pregnant women, developing fetuses, infants and children are especially sensitive to even very low doses of chemicals with EA. (4)

    BPA-free is not EA-free

    In the Environmental Health Perspectives study, Yaniger et al. set out to determine the estrogenic activity of commonly used plastic consumer products.

    They bought more than 500 plastic products at places like Wal-Mart, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Target, and other major retailers. They selected from all categories of plastic, including tupperware containers, bags and wraps.

    Then they cut the containers into pieces, put them into liquids that contain similar chemicals found in food and drinks, and subjected them to stresses that mimic normal use, like UV light (sunlight), microwaving, or moist heat (like boiling or dish washing).

    Their results showed that over 90 percent of the products leached estrogenic chemicals before they were even stressed, and after being stressed essentially all of the products showed estrogenic activity.

    According to Stuart Yaniger, one of the lead authors of the study:

    Baby bottles, plastic bags, plastic wrap, clam shell food containers, stand-up pouches: Just about anything you can think of that's made of plastic that food or beverages are wrapped up in, we found this activity. It was shocking to us.

    __________________________________________________ _________________________

    What plastics do and don't have EA? It's impossible to tell.

    Perhaps the most troubling outcome of this study is that it's currently impossible to determine which consumer plastic products are likely to have chemicals with EA, and which are not. The exact chemical composition of most plastic products is proprietary and thus not known, and a single plastic item containing many parts (e.g. a baby bottle) may consist of >100 chemicals, all of which can leach from the product.

    In light of the researchers' finding that nearly all of the 500 plastic products they tested leached when stressed, and 90 percent of them leached even without stress, I think it's pretty safe to assume that most plastic products you can buy in the store have chemicals with EA.

    It's important to reiterate that this is true even with BPA-free plastics. In fact, the Environmental Health Perspectives study found that some BPA-free products had even more EA than BPA-containing products!

    Should you be concerned about chemicals with EA?

    There are still a lot of unknowns in the discussion of the EA of various chemicals in plastic products, such as the number of chemicals having EA, their relative EA, their release rate under different conditions, and their half-lives in human beings of different ages.

    However, there are 3 strong arguments for being "better safe than sorry" when it comes to plastics and EA (5):

    in vitro data overwhelmingly show that exposures to chemicals with EA (even in very low doses) change the structure and function of human cell types;

    many studies present clear cellular, molecular and systemic mechanisms by which chemicals having EA produce changes in cells, organs and behaviors; and,

    recent epidemiological studies strongly suggest that chemicals with EA produce measurable changes in the health of various human populations.

    Perhaps the study authors summed it up best in their conclusion:

    Many scientists believe that it is not appropriate to bet our health and that of future generations on an assumption that known cellular effects of chemicals having EA released from most plastics will have no severe adverse health effects.

    __________________________________________________ ____________________________________

    I couldn't agree more.

    What you can do to reduce your exposure to chemicals with EA

    Here's a list of things you can do to reduce your exposure - and especially your baby's and children's exposure - to chemicals with EA.

    Use glass containers and canning jars at home for food storage. Be aware that the lids of Mason and Kerr brand canning jars contain BPA and chemicals with EA. There are BPA-free lids, but they still may contain chemicals with EA, and I've been told they're made with formaldehyde. Weck makes 100% glass jars that are a good alternative. Crate and Barrel sells them here.

    Use stainless steel containers in the freezer instead of freezer bags.

    Use a stainless steel water bottle (like the Klean Kanteen) instead of plastic bottles.

    Don't drink bottled water from plastic bottles, especially when they've been exposed to sunlight.

    Parents: use glass baby bottles instead of plastic. Evenflo is a commonly available brand you can buy at Target, Wal-Mart, Walgreens, Rite-Aid, etc. and online at Amazon and other retailers.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Everything is so unhealthy, I may as well go live in a bubble. Or is that unhealthy, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevin View Post
    Everything is so unhealthy, I may as well go live in a bubble. Or is that unhealthy, too?
    If it's a plastic bubble, then, yes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I frankly, do not trust things coming out of China, after they have been caught with putting Melamine in products (dog food and baby formula)

    Yeah, dammit - my dog food just doesn't taste as good now that they took out the Melamine!

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    *starts saving pickle jars again*

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by opal View Post
    *starts saving pickle jars again*
    That's a good idea. They just make the food stink and taste bad. I think I will start doing that too. I'm already fat, infertile and constantly sick but there is still time for me to get better. I go throw a few pickle jars a year. Maybe in 2-3 years I'll be better!
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