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Thread: Writing-in Ron Paul to Win in Iowa, NH, Maine: The Numbers Are There

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    Default Writing-in Ron Paul to Win in Iowa, NH, Maine: The Numbers Are There

    As the new launch WriteInRon2012.com reports:

    In Iowa, 2008, Paul had 11,800-plus votes—or about 10% of the vote—while in 2012 he had over 26,000 votes, a 121% increase. In contrast, interest in Romney in this state collapsed over the same period, with a -0% increase, from 30,021 to 30,015 votes. In New Hampshire Paul’s rise was even more dramatic, going from only about 8% in 2008 to nearly 23% in 2012, a 210% rise, while Romney’s rise was a mere 29%. Maine was so corrupted by rigging that the numbers aren’t completed, but the rise for Paul was meteoric.
    Jared Glenn in LewRockwell.com observes "How the GOP Establishment Stole the Nomination From Ron Paul":

    Days before the caucuses, Paul held a commanding lead in the polls and all the momentum, with every other candidate having peaked from favorable media coverage and then collapsed under the ensuing scrutiny....For the first time ever, the Iowa GOP changed the final vote count to a secret location . After the caucus, results from 8 precincts (including those with colleges, in a state where Paul won 48% of the youth vote) went missing. Interestingly, these were all precincts Romney lost in 2008. In addition, GOP officials discovered inaccuracies in 131 precincts. Though polling in a comfortable first place, Paul finished third in this non-binding straw poll, behind Romney and Santorum.
    And down east in Maine, Glenn tells us:

    Ben Swann reported on shenanigans... Even though only 84% of votes had been counted; State GOP Chairman, Charlie Webster, declared Romney the winner over Paul by less than 200 votes. Hancock and Washington Counties hadn't voted yet because Webster cancelled the caucuses due to an impending snowstorm, promising they could vote later and their votes would be counted. The snowstorm never occurred and he later reneged on his promise, telling voters in those counties their votes would not be counted after all. Washington County was Paul's strongest in the state in 2008.
    All this is in addition to the ample mathematical evidence of vote-flipping against Paul in Iowa and NH detailed in the study "Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in GOP Primary Elections" linked at the Von Mises Institute website.






    As for whether the votes will be officially counted, this is not as important as having an accurate count proving who actually won. It will be up to the states' electors who vote their conscience and decide which results to honor. WriteinRon2012.com makes a startlingly simple and ingenious proposal: use the absentee ballot to prove your vote, which is paper and can be photocopied. The beauty of Iowa, NH, and Maine is that, population-wise, they are small. With some kind of ground organization it is entirely conceivable that, given proof against the dirty tricks which are likely to be deployed, and given Paul's true numbers, strong, perhaps even winning, write-in votes can be cast.

    Such showings would throw a spotlight on these states' election machinery for the next 3 years, perhaps forcing enough reform for Ron or Rand at last get a fair shake in 2016.



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    Does anyone know if new York allows for write ins? I'm in long island and I'm writing Ron Paul in regardless!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb3b3 View Post
    Does anyone know if new York allows for write ins? I'm in long island and I'm writing Ron Paul in regardless!!
    NY is one of the states where the candidate must file. There's another thread that keeps the Write-In status for all states.


    Here's the Write-In strategy for 2012:
    http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/our-strategy/

    There are two main goals here:
    1) To actually win at least ONE state

    We believe that at least Iowa can be won. We have to concentrate or time and money efforts on that state, but you can still Write-In Ron where you live. You can also for example Write-In Gary Johnson where he has been removed from the ballot, like recently in Oklahoma. We would prefer ONLY in Iowa that you would Write-In Ron instead of Gary Johnson. Vote for whoever you want in 49 states, but lets please make an effort to win ONE for Ron.

    2) To guarantee that your vote will be counted: Use the method described about 1/2 down the page here: http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/our-strategy/
    All the forms have been produced and ready to use:
    http://writeinron2012.com/writeinBlog/forms/

    Iowa is winnable and this will open up the path to liberty candidates in 2016.
    Statistics don't lie, people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonRules View Post
    NY is one of the states where the candidate must file. There's another thread that keeps the Write-In status for all states.
    Just a quick thought off the top of my head, in the states that have Sore Loser Laws, what are the possibilities of securing the Americans Elect line? Oklahoma, I know, is trying something like this. (Just to be clear, here, I support ballot access and allowing whoever wants to to vote for whoever they want and have it counted, but I probably will not be voting RP in the General.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb3b3 View Post
    Does anyone know if new York allows for write ins? I'm in long island and I'm writing Ron Paul in regardless!!
    There is a write-in Ron Paul New York campaign, more info here:

    http://www.dailypaul.com/254356/writ...new-york-state

    Also don't forget Richard Gilbert is suing to have write-ins counted everywhere regardless, and was/is looking for plaintiffs (just means you are a person from such and such state who wants this change.):

    http://www.dailypaul.com/254688/plai...-all-50-states

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    Quote Originally Posted by dntrpltt View Post
    Just a quick thought off the top of my head, in the states that have Sore Loser Laws, what are the possibilities of securing the Americans Elect line? Oklahoma, I know, is trying something like this. (Just to be clear, here, I support ballot access and allowing whoever wants to to vote for whoever they want and have it counted, but I probably will not be voting RP in the General.)
    Keep in mind sore loser laws don't apply to presidential elections, because you are actually voting for electors, not the candidate. Since an elector never ran before he is not a sore loser. Unforeseen good side effect of the electoral college system.

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    I really don't think this is going to happen. NH and IA are toss up states. Both campaigns are throwing millions of dollars at both states. ME has an even larger problem. Ron Paul has little support there. Plus, some of the ads meant for NH are also reaching people in ME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    ME has an even larger problem. Ron Paul has little support there. Plus, some of the ads meant for NH are also reaching people in ME.
    The plan is to concentrate on Iowa, but ME has very strong support for Paul. Without the fraud he clearly won the popular vote, he sweeped the convention, so I don't know what you're talking about.

    It's also a way to make the GOP realize that the Liberty movement IS the swing vote. They'll lose IA and NH without us.
    Statistics don't lie, people do.

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    I worry that the figures you're using to make this sound possible are only taking into account the people who actually participated in the caucus process.

    There are millions of more people who don't participate in the caucuses who will be voting for Romney because the T.V. told them Obama is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonRules View Post
    The plan is to concentrate on Iowa, but ME has very strong support for Paul. Without the fraud he clearly won the popular vote, he sweeped the convention, so I don't know what you're talking about.

    It's also a way to make the GOP realize that the Liberty movement IS the swing vote. They'll lose IA and NH without us.
    Most people couldn't care less about the caucuses in Maine so people didn't both to vote. Around 2,000 people voted for Ron Paul in Maine. 2,000 votes isn't going to make a dent in 400,000 votes.

    2008 Maine Results:
    Obama 421,923
    McCain 295,273
    Nader 10,636
    McKinney 2,900
    Barr 251
    Baldwin 177
    Other 431

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