Why the modest inflation?

[Travlyr]

I haven't proven that the bankers make more money with the Fed than without it? Just how dense are you? a) It's simple economics, b) I posted it earlier, c) you still haven't addressed it - at all.

It's proven they make more money with the Fed than without it. Your denial of this simple economic fact speaks volumes.

The bankers, out of their own personal greed and avarice, have contracted the government into building and maintaining a monetary system designed to steal from me, and give it to bankers and politicians. They lie to their teeth to protect the system for their own wealth, and show zero concern for the monstrous tyrannical government they have built with the system they created.

Your denial of this, again, speaks volumes.

Speaks Volumes.

"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights." - Alan Greenspan, Gold and Economic Freedom

"The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers." - Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from either class." - Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Our goal is gradually to absorb the wealth of the world." - Cecil Rhodes, "The secret banking cabal"

[Henry Rogue]

Also, the Fed's policies are not nearly as inflationary as some believe.

Care to elaborate? Do you mean monetary inflation or price inflation? Does the first eventually result in the second?

[Paul Or Nothing II]

You have horrible reading skills. You still have no clue what I believe yet you are quite willing to tell others.

I don't think anybody is so naive to not realize what you believe.

You have yourself admitted that you support taxes (robbing people) & you support conscription (coercion), which automatically means that you don't believe in equal rights for all people but instead a system where people in government have more rights than rest of the people.

You can keep pretending that you are for freedom but you aren't, you just want "your version of freedom" just like socialists want "their version of freedom", not equal freedom for everyone!

[Travlyr]

I don't think anybody is so naive to not realize what you believe.

You have yourself admitted that you support taxes (robbing people) & you support conscription (coercion), which automatically means that you don't believe in equal rights for all people but instead a system where people in government have more rights than rest of the people.

You can keep pretending that you are for freedom but you aren't, you just want "your version of freedom" just like socialists want "their version of freedom", not equal freedom for everyone!

Your reading comprehension fails you miserably. I 100% agree with Ron Paul. I've read much of what he has written and I have watched many hours of his videos. My positions are completely in line with Ron Paul's position as he has articulated them. I believe that Ron Paul will go down in history as the greatest defender of liberty of our time. If you don't agree with Ron Paul, then that is fine with me, I seriously don't care. Just stop spreading lies about me and my positions.

Pillars of Prosperity: Free Markets, Honest Money, Private Property.

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Pulling a trigger = coercive intent. Telling another to pull a trigger = coercive intent. Intentionally withholding food = intentionally withholding food. One is an active attack on another, and the other is passive non-action. It's apples and oranges.

There is intent to kill in both instances & yet your verdict varies, that in itself proves my point that taking on such a stance is going to lead to a lot of disagreements amongst people & thousands of pages worth of legal code, which will eventually only stand to make lawyers richer & free more criminals.
Besides, if only hitman is held liable then there will be less incentive for his (likely rich) client to work towards getting a good lawyer & free him, which leaves a higher chance of having the actual coercive people getting convicted, & carrying on from my illustration in the previous post, the less "People-B" are out there, the less crime there will be irrespective of how many "People-A" are there.
Clearly, you haven't thought things through......but then you don't seem to have thought things through on other issues either.....
Nonetheless, as I've said, your judgment is very much clouded by conspiracy-theories so I won't argue.

I haven't proven that the bankers make more money with the Fed than without it? Just how dense are you? a) It's simple economics, b) I posted it earlier, c) you still haven't addressed it - at all.

And I've also pointed out in my previous posts that until the recent crisis, Fed hadn't benefitted banks in such ways & to such an extent.
So your basic argument is that bankers created Fed in 1913 & waited for almost a hundred years before extracting benefits from the system???? Really???
Clearly shows again that your views are based solely on conspiracy-theories rather than facts, reason & objectivity.

Or wait, let me guess, bankers are actually shape-shifting lizards who live for thousands or millions of years so they don't mind waiting a 100 or so!!!

Fed didn't buy up all those bad assets because they want to benefit the banks, they did so out of fear of further collapse of banks leading to worsening of the economy, further, it's also a way for Bernanke to try & drive down rates & thereby try to re-infate the bubble. But again, you don't seem to understand these things so good luck with conspiracies, lizards & everything.

It's proven they make more money with the Fed than without it. Your denial of this simple economic fact speaks volumes.

The bankers, out of their own personal greed and avarice, have contracted the government into building and maintaining a monetary system designed to steal from me, and give it to bankers and politicians. They lie through their teeth to protect the system for their own wealth, and show zero concern for the monstrous tyrannical government they have built with the system they created.

Your denial of this, again, speaks volumes.

Again, you don't understand how Fed works, what motivates them to do the things they do, how the government extracts enormous wealth through the economy through Fed, you can't even grasp the history of money that governments have always tried to control issuance of money & this system is no different.......you just can't grasp things so it seems palatable to believe fancy conspiracy-theories, researching & learning facts objectively is too much work I suppose

[bxm042]

And I've also pointed out in my previous posts that until the recent crisis, Fed hadn't benefitted banks in such ways & to such an extent.

Yes, because the laws of supply and demand are a relatively new invention.

All you're doing now is resorting to personal attacks, strawmen, and red herrings. I'm done arguing with you PON II.

It is pretty funny watching you try to struggle to defend the crimes of the bankers though.

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Your reading comprehension fails you miserably. I 100% agree with Ron Paul. I've read much of what he has written and I have watched many hours of his videos. My positions are completely in line with Ron Paul's position as he has articulated them. I believe that Ron Paul will go down in history as the greatest defender of liberty of our time. If you don't agree with Ron Paul, then that is fine with me, I seriously don't care. Just stop spreading lies about me and my positions.

Pillars of Prosperity: Free Markets, Honest Money, Private Property.

It's really funny how hard you are trying to convince yourself that you're for liberty & equality, even though you're not!

As for reading comprehension goes, well, may be you should look at yours more closely, as I've repeatedly pointed out why you are against freedom & equality & yet you just can't seem to connect the dots (or are pretending not to be able to connect them out of fear of realization that you're in fact against liberty & equality)

I don't know what "lies" I've posted but may be you have a different definition of what constitutes a "lie" since you seem to have your own weird definitions for "freedom" & "equality"

Nonetheless, I'll point it out again, may be this time you'll be able to connect the dots -
Ok, so you have admitted that you support taxation which equals supporting robbery, you support conscription which equals supporting coercion & slavery, it means that you believe that people in government have more rights than the rest, which means you support a class-structure where people in government are masters while rest of people are their slaves!

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Yes, because the laws of supply and demand are a relatively new invention.

All you're doing now is resorting to personal attacks, strawmen, and red herrings. I'm done arguing with you PON II.

It is pretty funny watching you try to struggle to defend the crimes of the bankers though.

Really??? So that's your contention???? Pretty pathetic it must be said

It's really funny how conspiracy-theorists try to find things to justify their ill-conceived beliefs, & every time a mirror is shattered they try to find a new fake one that will tell them what they believe to be true.
First, the conspiracy-theorists, convinced that bankers are the cause of every problem in the world, claim that "evil bankers" receive interest from government on the money they create, when that nonsense was proven to be false, conspiracy-theorists claim that "evil bankers" are earning excessively through PD-system & that's why they support Fed, after it's pointed that existence of PDs isn't dependent upon existence of Fed, conspiracy-theorists claim that "evil bankers" are benefitting through Fed buying up their bad assets, after it's pointed out that that has never been the norm for a century since Fed's inception, then, conspiracy-theorists don't know whether to run or to hide!

Nonetheless, thanks for all the laughs you've provided, I hope that some day you'll learn the good sense to base your views on facts, reason & objectivity, & not on fancy, speculative hypotheses born out of the minds of some internet-nobodies, who can't be bothered with facts & reality! Good luck!

[Travlyr]

It's really funny how hard you are trying to convince yourself that you're for liberty & equality, even though you're not!

As for reading comprehension goes, well, may be you should look at yours more closely, as I've repeatedly pointed out why you are against freedom & equality & yet you just can't seem to connect the dots (or are pretending not to be able to connect them out of fear of realization that you're in fact against liberty & equality)

I don't know what "lies" I've posted but may be you have a different definition of what constitutes a "lie" since you seem to have your own weird definitions for "freedom" & "equality"

Nonetheless, I'll point it out again, may be this time you'll be able to connect the dots -
Ok, so you have admitted that you support taxation which equals supporting robbery, you support conscription which equals supporting coercion & slavery, it means that you believe that people in government have more rights than the rest, which means you support a class-structure where people in government are masters while rest of people are their slaves!

lolz... Well PONII if it weren't for you telling me what I believe then I wouldn't believe anything at all. It is rather dumb to keep lying about me. Everyone else on the forum can read dude. We all know you are simply a shill for the evil bankers.

[bxm042]

lolz... Well PONII if it weren't for you telling me what I believe then I wouldn't believe anything at all. It is rather dumb to keep lying about me. Everyone else on the forum can read dude.

That's all he's done for this entire thread. Lies, personal attacks, and strawmen.

We all know you are simply a shill for the evil bankers.

The bankers aren't evil you're just a conspiracy theorist! (<-- the gist of his "argument")