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    ISRAELI SCIENCE WEBSITE: OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGED

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/israeli-s...ficate-forged/

    Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document.

    The website was created by a former science adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel Hanukoglu, Ph.D.
    http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate.htm

    Hanukoglu, an award-winning researcher, is a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology in the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center of Samaria in Ariel, Israel.

    The professor established the first version of his website during his tenure as Netanyahu’s science adviser. The site has evolved into “the premier science and technology portal for Israel.”

    The website says that the White House’s release of the Obama document in April 2011, after years of controversy, “raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document.”

    The website conducted an independent analysis and cites others who came to the same conclusion.

    The website says the publication “of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reigns on the most powerful country of the World.”

    Israel Science and Technology explains why, as a site of science and technology, it dedicated “a page to expose forgery about a document related to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama.”

    “Mr. Obama is the president of the USA that is currently the leader of the Free World, and the most powerful country in the Western hemisphere,” the site says. “In his position as the President, the policies pursued by Mr. Obama affects the whole world and not just the USA.”

    Moreover, inaction by members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, as well as U.S. courts, despite many appeals, also was seen to “raise a concern about how the governmental institutions of the reputedly best, and certainly the most important democracy in the Free World have avoided the issue.”

    The missing ’1′

    Utilizing the software program Foxit Reader version 4.3.1, the Israel Science and Technology website examined the PDF file posted by the White House April 27, 2011, and found that the last digit of the birth certificate’s number, 61 10841, disappears under 800-percent magnification.

    Also, the font of the last digit is different from the other digits.

    “This is only one example,” the Israelis concluded after examining the birth certificate number. “Many more examples can be discovered by examining magnified document with full page view of the document.”

    Conclusion: “In brief, this simple analysis using just a viewing software reveals that the PDF document has been altered by a graphics software.”

    The ‘ungrouped’ image

    Next, the Israeli Science and Technology site examined the PDF birth certificate file in the freely available Inkscape graphics software, version 0.48.1.

    “In vector graphics software, an image is composed of elements,” the website notes. “If the ‘Long-Form Birth Certificate’ of Obama was a photocopied document then it should not be composed of separate parts.”

    The website says the status line “at the bottom of the software reports that the image is composed of ’2 objects’ that have been grouped.”

    The Israelis found the Obama birth certificate PDF could be ungrouped, revealing individual layers. The most important of nine different ungrouped layers also shows the final digit, 1, is missing in the birth certificate number 61 10641.



    Israeli Science and Technology cited as additional evidence of forgery the following analyses, many of which were first published by WND:

    An expert analysis of the typography and layout of elements in the long-form birth certificate by Mara Zebest, here and here

    The conclusion of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse” that the birth certificate is fake.
    “From A to Z: What’s Wrong with Obama’s Birth Certificate,” published by WND May 13, 2011.

    “Irrefutable’ Proof of Obama Forgery,” published by WND July 17, 2011.

    “A Tale of Two Birth Certificates,” published by WND April 28, 2011.

    “Layered Colors ‘Simple Proof of Obama Document Forgery,” published by WND July 26, 2011.

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    Israel decides a lot of what's going on in our county, particularly what wars we engage in. What I read from this article is that Israel wants to get rid of Obama and Netenyahu is good buddies with Romney.

    If the authorities REALLY want to act, Obama would be flown back to Indonesia and it would be perfectly legal, following the law to deport illegals.

    If Israel really wants Obama out, he'll be out in 6-8 weeks. However, none of the 535 members of Congress would dare back up Sheriff Arpaio to get him out.

    What a great way to win an election Mitt! Good job, considering that you could not win it on your good looks alone. So, was it THAT, which was discussed during your $65 million trip to Israel last month?
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    Until the MSM pushes this issue it will go nowhere. WND isn't MSM yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Until the MSM pushes this issue it will go nowhere. WND isn't MSM yet.
    Israel is pushing it. That's the point.

    The MSM will follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonRules View Post
    Israel is pushing it. That's the point.

    The MSM will follow.
    I don't see Netanyahu or members of his party talking about it

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    Israel is pushing it. That's the point.
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    The author of the news article is an Alex Jones nut. Expect nothing to come from this.

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    The home page of the "Israeli Science" website they reference looks like a parked domain page mixed with a site from the 1990's. http://www.science.co.il/
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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    The author of the news article is an Alex Jones nut. Expect nothing to come from this.
    Israel Hanukoglu, however, is not. Lets try to focus on that.



    http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate.htm



    Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document.

    The website was created by a former science adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel Hanukoglu, Ph.D.

    Hanukoglu, an award-winning researcher, is a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology in the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center of Samaria in Ariel, Israel.

    The professor established the first version of his website during his tenure as Netanyahu’s science adviser. The site has evolved into “the premier science and technology portal for Israel.”
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    If the authorities REALLY want to act, Obama would be flown back to Indonesia and it would be perfectly legal, following the law to deport illegals.

    Chances of that happening?
    Would his supporters riot?
    Stay tuned...
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    Could be blowback for the DNC playing around with renaming Israel's capital city. How presumptuous and rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacelli View Post
    Could be blowback for the DNC playing around with renaming Israel's capital city. How presumptuous and rude.
    I told my hubby the other day, O is f'ing with the wrong people when he starts messing with Israel. They'll kick his a**.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I told my hubby the other day, O is f'ing with the wrong people when he starts messing with Israel. They'll kick his a**.
    Obama knows where his bread his buttered, he's apparently the one who told the DNC to put the Israel stuff back in the platform.
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    This is just some guy names israel's website, this is a joke
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    I would like to point out two things. One, it says that the article is at a "website created by Israel Hanukoglu". The article is not signed and there is no indication who actually wrote it. The links at the bottom of the article are NOT the sorts of links one would expect from a PhD scientist- including YouTube videos and more WND articles. They are trying to give the piece more credibility than it deserves. The WND piece continually says "according to the website", not "according to Hanukoglu".

    On their "links policy" page, it says http://www.science.co.il/Link-Policy.php

    Commercial company web sites that are submitted for inclusion in the Israel Science and Technology (IST) Directory will be reviewed according to the following criteria:

    The company directories of IST are limited to companies that have an office in Israel. The web site should provide a physical address and phone number in Israel.
    The company's activities are within the scope of IST subjects.
    The web site has to have at least some pages in English describing the major business of the company. This condition may be waived for some subjects limited to Israel .
    Web site of the company must be associated with a specific domain name. Web site address that is hosted as a subdomain will not be accepted.
    Site text is presented mainly as text in HTML and not in images or Flash technology.
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    In addition to the above criteria, we recommend that sites should try to follow the general design recommendations listed below.
    I am wondering if in this case, the "Israeli source" is Ms Orly Taitz- Queen of the Birthers. It does include the same links she uses: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...y-confirm.html She lived in Israel after leaving Moledovia in the former USSR and the language sounds like her.

    Checking out other articles on the site, it seems pretty easy to get things added to it.

    I am calling BS plant piece. Israel Hanukoglu did not write it. It would be the same thing as trying to say every post on this forum was by Ron Paul.
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    Israel would never suggest Obama is a Kenyan. If Israel decided they had gotten all the cooperation they were going to get out of him, we'd have already seen a Mossad-produced Kenyan birth certificate. Even if Kenya had never issued a birth certificate before.

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    I thought there was something to the "multilayer PDF" angle until I found out that Acrobat automatically breaks up scans into layers based on what it "thinks" are graphics vs. what it can convert to text via OCR.

    A thousand reasons to vote Obama out; this is about #942 on my list.

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    The PDF does indeed appear to be faked. Badly. (Can pdf layers somehow re-create the hidden line under a signature?)

    But that does not prove anything about his place of birth.

    Sill, this may indeed be Romney's last best hope if the MSM will jump on board the crazy wagon.
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    Nevermind that riots would break out if Obama were to be removed from office right before the election, with him leading Romney handily. That would go over as well as a lead balloon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Nevermind that riots would break out if Obama were to be removed from office right before the election, with him leading Romney handily. That would go over as well as a lead balloon.
    After that debacle of a primary contest and this debacle of a convention (actually a pair of them), I think they could do with a lead balloon or two. They could use the diversionary effects of it to take our minds off of whether or not we actually have a republic here any more...
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    A couple of things:

    1) How do they know there is supposed to be a "1" at the end of the birth certificate number?

    2) I thought I read previously that graphics software, for one reason or another, will actually separate a scanned document into multiple images, and that this is routine. Anyone know about this?

    Thanks.

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    Perhaps the National Review (a conservative publication not likely to be an "Obama shill") can take a look at it.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...than-goulding#


    PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate

    We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.

    The PDF is composed of multiple images. That’s correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as they’re being called, aren’t layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. They’re not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.

    What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

    UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

    UPDATE II: For those of you who still aren’t convinced, here’s a one-page PDF that I just scanned and optimized, so you can see for yourself that an optimized PDF shows up in Illustrator as layers. (I didn’t spend hours getting the settings right.)
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    Why of why didn't they flatten the PDF?
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    We're a little over 3 weeks since the OP and his references made this bold prophesy. Only 3-5 more weeks before I can laugh in your face for being a false prophet.

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    Times up. The prediction was 100% wrong. Jerome Corsi and Israel Hanukoglu are full of crap.

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    Damn, already repped you in another thread.
    This is some high-class smackdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tudo View Post
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    Michelle Obama Admits Barack Hussein Obama's Home Country is Kenya



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Perhaps the National Review (a conservative publication not likely to be an "Obama shill") can take a look at it.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...than-goulding#
    What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.
    I have about as much use for the whole Obama birth-certificate issue as I do for another hole in my head, but Goulding's statement here is just plain obtuse. Goulding is asserting that one of the following is the case:

    A) the document is a fake - the government scrood da pooch and made a "laughably rookie mistake" (BTW: as opposed to what? a "laughably expert mistake?" This is a ham-fisted attempt at framing rather than persuading. Not good, if Goulding is trying to come across as being reasonable.)

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    B) the document is not a fake - some flunky in Hawaii simply didn't push the right button, or some such thing

    For some reason he can't be bothered to explain, Goulding explicitly rejects (A) as "not plausible." (Why isn't it plausible? Does the government have rigorously foolproof quality-control procedures in place for absolutely guaranteeing that any faked-up documents it releases do not contain any mistakes - "rookie" and/or "laughable" and/or otherwise?)

    Since Goulding can't be bothered to justify his assertion of implausibility, that leaves only (B). And since (B) is *nothing* more than a restatement of the very issue at question (viz., "is the document a fake?"), Goulding's "argument" is just an exercise in running around in question-begging circles.

    No wonder he wants to "leave it at that." If I tried pulling off an "argument" that depended upon an implicit assumption of omni-competence on the part of government, I'd want to just "leave it at that," too.
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    They want their Iran war with the US backing the whole mass murder. This will get it for them. Politics is the art of deception.

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