Conference Call: Dr. Paul is Willing, Seeking Indications of His Support for 3rd Party Run

[James_Madison_Lives]

Note: there is a disinfo video circulating by some "Israel Whatizname" purporting to speak for Doug Wead, saying Paul has ruled out a third party run. Wead never appears in the video and the guy looks like he needs a bath. Wead has not made such a statement. GOP trolls are out in force masquerading as Johnson Libertarians attempting to quash speculation and support for a Paul run. Please be aware of this.

http://www.dailypaul.com/253116/the-...onference-call

Submitted by James_Madison_Lives on Mon, 09/03/2012 - 18:15


Here is the low-down from the historic conference call last night (at call capacity, over 1,000 people, another 1,000 streaming over the Internet.) I listened to a couple of hours of it, it went briskly and professionally. This is what Alaska delegate and call organizer Evan Cutler reported from his recent conversation with Ron Paul.

- Dr. Paul doesn't do Facebook or even computers much, so he doesn't have that sense of how much over-the-top support he has out here. He thinks he might not have enough to do a third party run even though he is open to it.

- Obviously it is do-able or he wouldn't have left the door open. All the talk about sore loser laws and ballot difficulties presumes Dr. Paul doesn't know about these things. As we know, he knows more about how these things work than most of us will in 20 lifetimes. So focusing on obstacle is (my opinion) just plain silly if not outright trollish.

- If he does run, he would like us to be in the precincts as officials and poll watchers to keep it honest. There is no sense doing a run if they can just steal it. We are talking a big time, precinct-by-precinct operation. We have the numbers for it.

Those are the biggest take-aways I got. Forget about the "leave him alone" and "let him rest" meme. He is taking the temperature. If you are going to call to express support, now is the time to do it.



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[CPUd]

I don't think they are trolls, they just disagree that it is a good idea.

also:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-3rd-party-run.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-be-FALSE-Wead

[VictorB]

I just still think this needs to be a split ticket with Johnson. If Johnson is pulling 3-5% and we can get another 12-15%, we're well on out way to invading the minds of the general American voter.

[anaconda]

I just still think this needs to be a split ticket with Johnson. If Johnson is pulling 3-5% and we can get another 12-15%, we're well on out way to invading the minds of the general American voter.

Why the hell not run 3rd Party. Why not turn the tables on the GOP and have them coming to us over the next four years, instead us being afraid of blow back from them? They know we want in to the Republican Party but have seemingly left us no other option.

[RickyJ]

Why the hell not run 3rd Party. Why not turn the tables on the GOP and have them coming to us over the next four years, instead us being afraid of blow back from them? They know we want in to the Republican Party but have seemingly left us no other option.

They will treat us like crap whether Ron runs third party or not. Ron should run to help the cause of liberty. It is only 2 more months then he can rest.

[cstarace]

Why the hell not run 3rd Party. Why not turn the tables on the GOP and have them coming to us over the next four years, instead us being afraid of blow back from them? They know we want in to the Republican Party but have seemingly left us no other option.

Maybe because Ron is 76 years old and has gone through three Presidential Elections? Maybe he's sick and tired of playing a game he never wanted to play in the first place? Leave the man alone, let him enjoy his retirement, and work within the Libertarian Party if you want to stick it to the GOP.

[RickyJ]

Maybe because Ron is 76 years old and has gone through three Presidential Elections? Maybe he's sick and tired of playing a game he never wanted to play in the first place? Leave the man alone, let him enjoy his retirement, and work within the Libertarian Party if you want to stick it to the GOP.

Just two more months, then he can rest, what is two more months after all the campaigning he has done already?

[fr33]

Just two more months, then he can rest, what is two more months after all the campaigning he has done already?

He doesn't want to bang his head against a brick wall anymore.

Also it *could damage Rand's future. Boy I know that sentence isn't going to be popular. lol

[John F Kennedy III]

Maybe because Ron is 76 years old and has gone through three Presidential Elections? Maybe he's sick and tired of playing a game he never wanted to play in the first place? Leave the man alone, let him enjoy his retirement, and work within the Libertarian Party if you want to stick it to the GOP.

If you're not inside the GOP then you're exactly where the establishment wants you to be.

[Peace&Freedom]

If you're not inside the GOP then you're exactly where the establishment wants you to be.

The establishment knows how to marginalize us whether inside the GOP or working within a third party. So long as we make ourselves dependent on a party structure, we can be suppressed, and are exactly where they want us to be.

Paul has signaled to us (humorously) that he's not running 3rd party in 2012, but also signaled that 2016 is not off the table. This is a better signal than he gave before 2011 (prior to the current run, he said he had no plans to run again). Now he has himself encouraged us to think about a future run!

[affa]

If you're not inside the GOP then you're exactly where the establishment wants you to be.

if you think you can save America by working inside the GOP, you're exactly where TPTB want you to be.

[Ender]

I am amazed at some of the answers on this thread.

First of all nobody knows nothin'; all the speculating is ridiculous.

The best thing to do IMHO is to form a strong vital support group and show Paul we want a 3rd party run. Then work our ASSES OFF to make something great happen. If we do not capture el presidente position, at least we have pushed to the end and we have also made our grassroots stronger.

So, I say, let's go for it and make some real noise toward regaining our liberty- I do not think anyone can be sorry for 2 more months of work.

BTW- paraphrasing a famous TRUE story from "Think & Grow Rich": about a miner that was onto a gold mine but eventually gave up as the gold was nowhere to be found- another miner came in and struck gold just a few feet away. The last guy stopped with the gold in touching distance.

So, with that in mind, giving up 2 months away makes no sense to me.

[fr33]

Why the hell not run 3rd Party. Why not turn the tables on the GOP and have them coming to us over the next four years, instead us being afraid of blow back from them? They know we want in to the Republican Party but have seemingly left us no other option.

He gave you his answer on Leno tonight.

I supported a 3rd party run but it isn't going to happen. If he did, my first BIG suggestion would be that Ron needs some serious security because there will be some frothing at the mouth wing nuts out there. But it isn't going to happen. Let the man rest. I'm sure he has plans for more education.

[asurfaholic]

How much can ron paul realistically raise to be able to compete? Will he even be included in telephone surveys?

[RickyJ]

How much can ron paul realistically raise to be able to compete? Will he even be included in telephone surveys?

Realistically, about a billion dollars. 10 million supporters giving 100 bucks average will do it. Or a million supporters giving a 1000 bucks each. It can be done, it is not impossible.

[CPUd]

Another big question - if he somehow got on the LP ticket, would that open them up to having ballot issues with the states/opposition? They are already trying to get the LP off the ballot in PA, would something like this make it easier to get tossed off in PA and other states?

[The Dude]

GOP trolls are out in force masquerading as Johnson Libertarians attempting to quash speculation and support for a Paul run. Please be aware of this.

Wtf? Has this forum lost it's mind?

[Ender]

Everyone should stop with the speculation over details and just phone the numbers with an affirmative.

If RP is in then we immediately go to Phase 2.

[1stAmendguy]

If you are down with this plan get on those phones and email. We need to lobby Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and the LP nonstop from now until Leno.

[Carlybee]

I will call tomorrow. Question though..I see the address is the campaign committee...is that the same people who ran his GOP bid?

[puppetmaster]

I will back Dr. Paul no matter what party if he wants to run

[Sematary]

I will back Dr. Paul no matter what party if he wants to run

ditto

[unknown]

I called.

Will call again.

[Sematary]

he had MILLIONS of votes and he needs to gauge? Doesn't he look at the polls?

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Ronpaulflix is disinfo?

bs

[James_Madison_Lives]

Ronpaulflix is disinfo?

bs

Yes. Title says "Doug Wead." You never see Doug Wead, just some dirty hippie with a beer gut claiming to have the out and out scoop on Paul. Are we that stupid?

[ClydeCoulter]

Yes. Title says "Doug Wead." You never see Doug Wead, just some dirty hippie with a beer gut claiming to have the out and out scoop on Paul. Are we that stupid?

No, not stupid, just a lot of us are naive. Me too, to some degree, but I'm learning.

edit: And hey, I'm a long haired hippy lookin' old man with a bit of a gut, please be kind

[Matt Collins]

Yes. Title says "Doug Wead." You never see Doug Wead, just some dirty hippie with a beer gut claiming to have the out and out scoop on Paul. Are we that stupid?

Isreal does indeed speak with Doug on occasion, I don't figure Israel to be a liar. And, your first post is full of inaccuracies, assumptions, and unfounded statements. As someone who started Rand on his Campaign, and has worked for Ron for well over a year, I would bet every dollar I have, that Ron will NOT run for President any longer.

[Indy Vidual]

Isreal does indeed speak with Doug on occasion, I don't figure Israel to be a liar. And, your first post is full of inaccuracies, assumptions, and unfounded statements. As someone who started Rand on his Campaign, and has worked for Ron for well over a year, I would bet every dollar I have, that Ron will NOT run for President any longer.

+1
Time to "get real" & help w/ other projects.

[A_Silent_Majority_Member]

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