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    Thank you Shem for creating this thread. Walter was wrong, IMO. He should have talked about something other than increasing taxes to pay for babies... Maybe even something proliberty...



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    Quote Originally Posted by cjm View Post
    If a child has a natural birth and no one wants to adopt it, who pays?
    This is the Roth-cap point. You have no right to life as such. Nobody has a moral obligation to keep an infant alive.

    Block has a more interesting point that goes further. If you have a child and don't want it, you have a moral obligation (although the justification is weak) to advertise this and give the child to someone who wants it.

    It is linked to his donut theory of property. If you have land in the middle of your property that you are not using you have the same moral obligation to advertise the lands availability.

    This puts a spare infant on par with a spare acre in your back forty.

    Its an extremely esoteric rothbardian position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    Thank you Shem for creating this thread. Walter was wrong, IMO. He should have talked about something other than increasing taxes to pay for babies... Maybe even something proliberty...
    Haven't seen Walter's speech, but considering he's an anarcho-capitalist, I sincerely doubt he raised the idea of taxation to pay for his ideas.
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    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    A fan of Block on reason said the guy was trolling before the internet was even invented. Something like that. LOL...
    So true and funny. But also the reason Walter is in the right. Being controversial, bombastic, and thought provoking is who Walter Block is. You don't go to a Walter Block speech expecting to be coddled to or fed some "feel good" tripe. If Walter changed his style just for this event he'd be cheating the audience. The people who misbehaved were immature and should be ashamed of themselves.

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    pedophiles would pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Haven't seen Walter's speech, but considering he's an anarcho-capitalist, I sincerely doubt he raised the idea of taxation to pay for his ideas.
    Anarchists for tax increases. Does it sound good? The LP VP nominee from 1980, a Koch brother, just called for possible tax increases, why not a Mises guy jumping on the bandwagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    Anarchists for tax increases. Does it sound good? The LP VP nominee from 1980, a Koch brother, just called for possible tax increases, why not a Mises guy jumping on the bandwagon?
    You're going to need to provide video to prove he called for a tax increase.
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    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    pedophiles would pay
    Oh man is that a can of worms for rothbardism.
    Stop the Looting and Start Prosecuting! Gold plated Tungsten IS Money!
    We Must Dissent A colher não existe.
    A government is just a body of people, notably, usually, ungoverned.

    "You mean this entire war started because The Empire dressed as the enemy? That's exactly what happened in the last major war! Our government is so stupid!"

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    The right way to handle the speech for the audience would be too remain silent and let him speak. Booing was utterly wrong. The booers were worse to the movement than Blocks unfitting speech.

    Pretty sad that there was such a misunderstanding between Ron and him.

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