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    GOP does NOT WANT to win POTUS in 2012

    The fiscal cliff, kicking the can down the road, endless stimulus.... there is a financial reckoning coming down the pipe, a real collapse of the soufflé. Probably don't want a GOP dingbat in office when that happens, they want Obama to ride this depression out so they can come back in as the "shining knight" to save us all...

    In the mean time, Obama's doing just fine on their agenda... more wars, less rights... no need to replace him.


    I think they are fighting so damn hard for Mitt because they WANT to lose. You can even hear it talking to Democrats -- "Ya know, Obama would have a really hard time getting re-elected if he were running unopposed... thank god Mitt the Twit is running against him and making it so easy"
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    They know when they lose this year that Obama's failed policies coupled with economic meltdown will ensure that America will be fully ready to "give the other side a try", balancing the power BS that works on America very well these last few decades. The dangerous part is the fact that they know this. At this point they can offer up just about anybody but a Jeb Bush and voters will take him. This sets us up for a neocon nightmare candidate the likes of which would put even McCain to shame. This MAJORLY jeopardizes the Rand 2016 idea, especially if they successfully paint the liberty movement as the cause for their "losing" this election on the voters.
    Last edited by paulbot24; 08-26-2012 at 03:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbot24 View Post
    They know when they lose this year that Obama's failed policies coupled with economic meltdown will ensure that America will be fully ready to "give the other side a try", balancing the power BS that works on America very well these last few decades. The dangerous part is the fact that they know this. At this point they can offer up just about anybody but a Jeb Bush and voters will take him. This sets us up for a neocon nightmare candidate the likes of which would put even McCain to shame. This MAJORLY jeopardizes the Rand 2016 idea, especially if they successfully paint the liberty movement as the cause for their "losing" this election on the voters.
    IF "meltdown"
    THEN "yes"
    ELSE "no"
    “No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.”
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    You're attributing too much to the GOP - it is nothing more than a political party which attempts to get its members elected. Besides, the longer Obama is in office, the greater chance he has of pulling off an FDR - which would be truly devastating to this country morally, intellectually, and philosophically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbot24 View Post
    This MAJORLY jeopardizes the Rand 2016 idea, especially if they successfully paint the liberty movement as the cause for their "losing" this election on the voters.
    if?
    "Ron Paul, not going anywhere. Ideologically pure and tough as nails!"

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    Romney - NOBP = Obama

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    We warned you. You insulted and cheated us. You lost. Your fault.

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    I have thought this for a while now I take full credit for putting this idea out there.
    Last edited by Working Poor; 08-26-2012 at 05:23 AM.

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    The GOP is too stupid to realize there is a catastrophic collapse imminent. You're giving them way too much credit.

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    Mitt Romney: In Your Heart, You Know He’s A Loser
    Are the Republicans deliberately throwing the presidential election?

    The economy is in a mess, and – in spite of the Obama administration’s pathetic attempts to conjure a "recovery" out of thin air — looks like it is tanking. The European banks are on the verge of a meltdown, and the jobless rate in this country is much higher than anyone in officialdom is willing to acknowledge (although ordinary people know the truth). What’s more, America’s position abroad is none too good: after being driven out of Iraq, which is falling into the Iranian orbit, we’re well on our way to losing the war in Afghanistan, and the whole region is in turmoil. Israel is threatening to start World War III with an attack on Tehran, an act that would drive the world economy over a cliff. Would you want to be President when the price of oil is over $200 a barrel?

    Which brings us to the question that has been hovering around the edge of my consciousness ever since the Republican primary battle commenced: is the GOP deliberately throwing the 2012 presidential election?

    And yet I am a firm believer in action over words: and if we look at what the Republicans are doing (or, rather, not doing), as opposed to what they are saying, it’s enough to arouse a certain suspicion that something just isn’t right.
    [...]
    On the one hand, the GOP is telling us Obama is leading us down the road to "socialism," that he’s "appeasing" our enemies and stiffing our friends, and that he’s basically destroying the country. On the other hand, they haven’t put forth a candidate who has a chance in heck of beating him. The leading candidate for the party’s nomination is a caricature of everything voters are sick and tired of: he’s a phony, a spoiled rich guy, an automaton whose words and actions convey, above all, an almost comical impression of inauthenticity.
    [...]
    Romney isn’t so much a serious candidate for the presidency as he is a national joke: his record as a "flip-flopper," his inability to project anything remotely resembling sincerity, and his Richie Rich persona have all combined to turn him into a human piñata for both liberals and conservatives to pick apart. Which leads us back to the question I asked at the beginning: is the GOP deliberately throwing this election?

    It makes sense if we take the economic critique proffered by anti-inflationists like Ron Paul and Gerald Celente seriously: would you want to be President if we’re on the brink of another Great Depression? As the American dollar is destroyed, and the buying power of the average American is about to become the equivalent of a consumer in, say, Zimbabwe, is it really in the GOP’s interest to take the White House this year?
    [...]
    Ron Paul isn’t the only one conjuring visions of America as Greece-times-ten, and it doesn’t take much imagination to see how the march to austerity will be met here in this country, where Americans’ sense of entitlement is almost as well-developed as their taste for vulgarity. What happens when the bread-and-circuses stop, and Americans are forced to confront the grim reality of being broke?
    [...]
    If voters are in the mood to punish the Democrats somehow, and if they can’t in good conscience do it on the presidential level, then isn’t it more likely they’ll take it out on the rest of the ticket? If Republicans can retain control of the House, that may be enough to keep them from regretting their loss at the top of the ticket. Another wave of victories on the state and local level will perhaps be enough to satiate them, at least for the moment, until they get another crack at the White House. Then they can sit back and blame the President for everything, as the crisis unfolds, while cat-calling from the sidelines: a perfect set-up for career politicians who have no principles, no sense of duty to the country, and no compunctions about defrauding their supporters. With Congress in their hot little hands, they can obstruct the President’s domestic agenda and heckle him into getting more aggressive on the overseas front – a perfect vantage point from which to observe the rapidly accelerating decline of the American empire.
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    They would rather lose the election to the Democrats than lose the party to us. Period.
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