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    Jill Stein: Time to empty prisons of non-violent marijuana users

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/2...rijuana-users/

    GREEN PARTY
    http://www.jillstein.org/
    White House hopeful Jill Stein: Time to empty prisons of non-violent marijuana users


    “We need to legalize cannabis,
    get the users out of jail,
    and start to treat substance abuse and addiction as a public health problem,
    not as a criminal act,” she said.
    Drug addiction is a medical problem. It’s not a problem of the law.
    Ron Paul, GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate, Sep 17, 2007

    presence
    Last edited by presence; 08-20-2012 at 05:42 PM.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
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    Why does everyone assume that if you smoke a joint every once in a while you're an addict? I guess it fits their narrow worldview.
    Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. -James Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    Why does everyone assume that if you smoke a joint every once in a while you're an addict? I guess it fits their narrow worldview.
    marijuana is not chemically addictive, like say, cigs or beer.
    rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler

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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    marijuana is not chemically addictive, like say, cigs or beer.
    Hence one of the many reasons it is illegal. Cigs and booze may ruin your life, but your addiction means lots of $$$ in taxes for the state. Alchys and smokers are easy to control; marijuana users aren't. Besides how many people have the time or training to make their own beer or smokes? Marijuana doesn't require any work; it grows naturally in the wild, and you pick it.
    Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. -James Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison View Post
    Hence one of the many reasons it is illegal. Cigs and booze may ruin your life, but your addiction means lots of $$$ in taxes for the state. Alchys and smokers are easy to control; marijuana users aren't. Besides how many people have the time or training to make their own beer or smokes? Marijuana doesn't require any work; it grows naturally in the wild, and you pick it.
    And that sir is precisely why it is illegal. Since it grows naturally and you can pick it, it is way too easy to avoid being taxed for using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/2...rijuana-users/

    GREEN PARTY
    http://www.jillstein.org/
    White House hopeful Jill Stein: Time to empty prisons of non-violent marijuana users





    Ron Paul, GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate, Sep 17, 2007

    presence
    That's great, but who gets addicted to marijuana?

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    For those who would consider voting for Jill Stein, you should read The New American's profile of her.

    "Stein’s January 2012 “Green New Deal for America” manifesto is based upon Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s 1944 “Second Bill of Rights.” Stein explains: “The Green New Deal begins with an Economic Bill of Rights that recognizes our rights to an economy that serves people. This means that everyone willing and able to work has the right to a job at a living wage. All of us have the right to quality education, health care, utilities, and housing.”

    "However, the Green Party platform would undermine U.S. security and sovereignty if its plans were implemented. It calls for dismantling all U.S. nuclear weapons unilaterally, plus international controls: “The U.S. … must allow foreign teams to visit the U.S. for verification purposes at least annually.” The Green Party platform argues that “the U.S. is obligated to render military assistance or service under U.N. command to enforce U.N. Security Council resolutions.” The Greens would seek to give up the U.S. veto at the Security Council of the United Nations and “urge our government to sign the International Criminal Court agreement and respect the authority of that institution.” Put simply, the Green Party supports global governance under the United Nations."

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...-for-president

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    *dances happily as I-502 polling shows it clearly will pass and marijuana will be legal in Washington*
    "Freedom, then Pizza!" - Oklahoma State GOP Convention 5/11/2012



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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    For those who would consider voting for Jill Stein, you should read The New American's profile of her.
    No doubt she's left wing global-eco-socialist.... politics is about coalitions though.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    No doubt she's left wing global-eco-socialist.... politics is about coalitions though.
    She ran for Governor in 2010 here in Massachusetts. Yes, she is definitely a big time eco-socialist, let me tell ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0611 View Post
    She ran for Governor in 2010 here in Massachusetts. Yes, she is definitely a big time eco-socialist, let me tell ya.
    Call me crazy... but libertarians aside... I'd take an eco-socialist on the short term over the toxic cartel globalist police state $#@! we're spoon fed now. Not that it really matters what any of us would like... we are probably in for another 100 years of republodem puppet tv no matter how you twist it.
    Last edited by presence; 08-20-2012 at 06:44 PM.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    For those who would consider voting for Jill Stein, you should read The New American's profile of her.

    "Stein’s January 2012 “Green New Deal for America” manifesto is based upon Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s 1944 “Second Bill of Rights.” Stein explains: “The Green New Deal begins with an Economic Bill of Rights that recognizes our rights to an economy that serves people. This means that everyone willing and able to work has the right to a job at a living wage. All of us have the right to quality education, health care, utilities, and housing.”

    "However, the Green Party platform would undermine U.S. security and sovereignty if its plans were implemented. It calls for dismantling all U.S. nuclear weapons unilaterally, plus international controls: “The U.S. … must allow foreign teams to visit the U.S. for verification purposes at least annually.” The Green Party platform argues that “the U.S. is obligated to render military assistance or service under U.N. command to enforce U.N. Security Council resolutions.” The Greens would seek to give up the U.S. veto at the Security Council of the United Nations and “urge our government to sign the International Criminal Court agreement and respect the authority of that institution.” Put simply, the Green Party supports global governance under the United Nations."

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...-for-president
    Sounds like communism. No free market since the government guarantees free education, health care, utilities, housing, jobs, etc. I never thought I could find a worse candidate than Obama or Romney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Call me crazy... but libertarians aside... I'd take an eco-socialist on the short term over the toxic cartel globalist police state $#@! we're spoon fed now. Not that it really matters what any of us would like... we are probably in for another 100 years of republodem puppet tv no matter how you twist it.
    I don't think it's accurate to say that liberals/Green Party types oppose the Police State. They may oppose the Patriot Act, but they basically support repealing the 2nd amendment. They even support a ban on handguns, not just "assault rifles."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    I don't think it's accurate to say that liberals/Green Party types oppose the Police State. They may oppose the Patriot Act, but they basically support repealing the 2nd amendment. They even support a ban on handguns, not just "assault rifles."
    Though this is true... you are also looking at a group that is radically against the war on drugs, war on terror, and other "civil liberties" issues that make the police state necessary and possible. I doubt the Green Party supports swat team raids of dairy farms.
    Last edited by presence; 08-21-2012 at 08:44 AM.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...




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