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Regardless of what the United States is, was, or will be, the National Anthem is pretty badass.
The Pledge of Allegiance at least has "to the Republic." It's amazing what people don't process, regarding the part about the Republic, when they bleat mindlessly.
"I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
-Stannis Baratheon
I don't and won't ever honor the pledge of allegiance, but I don't mind standing up while someone sings the national anthem.
This. I believe doing the anthem before every sporting event is a way to bind people closer to the state. I'll stand but won't sing a long. I do not honor the pledge either. I pledge alliegance to my values, my family and God but not to a government as out of control as the US is at the moment.
"Unlike my opponents, I'm not running from my voting record. I'm not running from my public statements. I'm not running from my predictions. I'm running on them." -Ron Paul
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H.L. Mencken
I am a non-interventionist,anti-Fed, anti-drug war socially conservative Paul supporter(i.e. paleocon)
I worship the American flag as an idol.
It is what our Christian founders wanted.
Definition of political insanity: Voting for the same people expecting different results.
never. I refuse to even stand for it. It would be the equivalent of singing songs about santa clause when I know santa clause is not real. I've always believed that actions speak louder than words. The value of life is what really matters, not a national anthem.
Last edited by CaptainAmerica; 08-18-2012 at 11:37 AM.
Star Spangled Banner > Pledge
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin
"No freeman shall be taken, imprisoned, or in any other way destroyed, except by the lawful judgment of his peers."
- Magna Carta
Not the US one. I stand when Dixie is played. I live in an occupied country. I would never pledge allegiance to it.
i do not. my kids also have chosen to not do it. they are 16 and 17. a few of my sons friends do not do it due to my son telling them how he feels about it.
I sang it at a hockey game once, but that was a paid gig. Even if I believed in national anthems (which I don't), the Star Spangled Banner never really did anything for me.
"When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight, because once they've got you violent then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humor. "
---John Lennon
"I EAT NEOCONS FOR BREAKFAST!!!"
---Me
Jesse Ventura is so correct in his latest statements of the phony Ultra-Jingoism on Military Nationalism at sporting events.
NASCAR is disgustingly juiced on 'war power roids' pushing it...
TPTB have ruined the Baseball's '7th Inning Stretch' swapping 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' to 'God Bless America' or 'National Anthem', or some other Joseph Goebbels state induced bellisim.
The American Dream, Wake Up People, This is our country! <===click
"All eyes are opened, or opening to the rights of man, let the annual return of this day(July 4th), forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them."
Thomas Jefferson June 1826
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Yes.
I stand for the National Anthem and will remove my cap (if wearing one). As for the POA.. I do not say it, I do not place my hand on my heart, I do not mouth the words.
"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
designed to make of their victory,
there would have been no surrender at
Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870
I'm surprised not that many people honor the anthem, I'm not criticizing but rather just surprised. Every country has an anthem, at least in my mind it just shows reverence to America and is noncommittal. The pledge of allegiance is a different story, and commands less respect from me.
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin
"No freeman shall be taken, imprisoned, or in any other way destroyed, except by the lawful judgment of his peers."
- Magna Carta
Right...
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius
“They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020
Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber
And yet without instituting the proper application of our U.S. Constitution and founding documents, there are neither any liberties nor freedoms for which to be secured; for all that would remain is individual greed, desire, and selfishness. And that is the underlying distinction between constitutionalists and libertarians.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius
“They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020
Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber
Anarcho-capitalists never claim that a truly free society will be perfect. They simply believe any society will be better without a state than with one. You act as if individual greed, desire, and selfishness are not rampant within government. The problem with government is that it can get away with things that private individuals and corporations could never do because the people believe government force is legitimate. If say, Citigroup were to create some arbitrary laws and then force everyone to give up 10% of their income so that they could enforce these laws, the people would be in open revolt. Nobody believes Citigroup has the right to rule over their life. Yet the state gets away doing this exact thing because the people believe its power is legitimate. The national anthem and pledge of allegiance are perfect examples of the state's legitimacy being ingrained in the minds of its citizens.
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