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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    South Carolina is really the most important.

    We need DeMint and Sanfords support. Tom Davis will back him, and maybe by that time he will have taken out Graham.
    New Hampshire popularized the primary system. It is the most important primary state in the US. It is also the most important early state for liberty candidates as the GOP isn't as fundy as in IA or SC. Undeclared voters are allowed to vote in NH and many of those voters lean pro-liberty. It is so important because it is the 1st primary and influences the other primaries and even caucuses. Certainly, if Ron Paul didn't do so well in NH, he would have had the financial support to run the campaign he did in other states.

    I do agree that SC could be especially important in 2016. Ron Paul didn't expect to do well in SC in 2012. His campaign didn't work very hard in SC until right about the time Ron Paul did very well in the NH election. By then, it was too late to make up the massive lead others had, even with the major bump Ron Paul received in SC. If a pro-liberty campaign actually has the ability to do well in SC in 2016, more serious money will be put behind such an effort. I agree that DeMint and company could really help set the stage for that to happen. I am excited by Davis. He seemed pro-liberty and has the possibility of moving up in SC politics.

    Ron Paul received a huge boost (not just financially) but in the polls in SC because of how well he did in NH. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.p...Hampshire-Bump
    In polls by three different polling companies, Ron Paul had a significant bump in South Carolina. According to the South Carolina PPP poll before the New Hampshire Primary, Ron Paul polled at 9%. In the PPP poll right after the New Hampshire Primary, Ron Paul polled at 15%. The pre-New Hampshire Primary Rasmussen Reports poll had Ron Paul at 11%. The post-New Hampshire Primary Rasmussen Reports poll had Ron Paul at 16%. The American Research Group polls before and after the New Hampshire Primary showed a jump from 9% to 20% for Ron Paul in South Carolina.

    While New Hampshire gave a bump to Ron Paul, no other candidate received a bump from the New Hampshire Primary. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich did not change more than a point or two in either direction according to South Carolina polls by American Research Group, Rasmussen Reports and PPP.

    Rick Santorum received a negative bump from the New Hampshire Primary. Rick Santorum was tied with Gingrich for second in South Carolina before the New Hampshire Primary. After the New Hampshire Primary, Santorum dropped 17 points from 24% to 7% according to American Research Group. According to Rasmussen Reports, Santorum dropped 8 points in South Carolina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeman View Post
    Maybe, but I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have different approaches towards the same goal. Just because someone doesn't do things in the same exact way Ron Paul would doesn't make them a sellout or a traitor to this movement. For instance Rand thought it would be more beneficial for him in the future to endorse Romney (now we can agree or disagree with that all we want but it won't change it) while it's unlikely that Ron ever would (although he has endorsed some awful candidates). We'll see how Rand's strategy plays out, if it works great, if not then hopefully he changes the approach or someone else (Amash?) will try something different.

    It's sort of like a free market of approaches. We'll find out which approaches work the best and hopefully adjust to them.
    The approach that is winning in the free market of ideas is working within the republican party and making incremental change and getting our people in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    If you were running the republican party, there would be probably be a democratic super-majority. And in all likelihood this site would be shut down.
    I agree. Try living in the real world. In the real world Jim Demint is very much an ally and asset to a Rand 2016 campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco View Post
    Besides, this is a very good poll for us. The favorability is concerning but 10% before the 2012 race is even over means we have a great base in
    NH
    Not gonna lie, the fact that it's seniors who don't like him bodes well for an election that is 4 years into the future...many of these seniors will no doubt "not be voting" by then, if you catch my drift
    Thomas Jefferson, the REAL intellectual godfather of the liberty movement:

    "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God."

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