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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I was just researching Ecuador the other day. Lots of X Pats heading that way; now I know why. Looks like a great place to live, and it's cheap.

    http://www.southamericaliving.com/ch...canoa-ecuador/

    yes it is, my folks went there....it is close to Columbia also which is another area I like
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    I read that, and I realized, in a split second, far from being a guarantee, it is likely that he would be whisked off to permanent detention or summary execution by military tribunal.

    And I actually cried a little...



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  5. #33
    Eventually, wherever he goes, he'll be paid a visit by dogs and seals...



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  6. #34
    And now from Faux Snooze,,

    Ecuador's decision to grant Assange asylum is a bold act of hypocrisy

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...#ixzz23kLcW3bM
    Read it if you like, it is the usual rabid foam spittle you have come to expect.
    I quoted the defining part.

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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It's all about Freedom

  8. #36
    I've been praying for Assange today.

    Assange Or Corzine?

    Priorities are a bitch.

    The United States won’t prosecute Corzine for raiding segregated customer accounts, but will happily convene a Grand Jury in preparation for prosecuting Julian Assange for exposing the truth about war crimes.
    [...]
    But the issue at hand is the sense that we have entered a phase of exponential criminality and corruption. A slavering crook like Corzine who stole $200 million of clients’ funds can walk free. Meanwhile, a man who exposed evidence of serious war crimes is for that act so keenly wanted by US authorities that Britain has threatened to throw hundreds of years of diplomatic protocol and treaties into the trash and raid the embassy of another sovereign state to deliver him to a power that seems intent not only to criminalise him, but perhaps even to summarily execute him. The Obama administration, of course, has made a habit of summary extrajudicial executions of those that it suspects of terrorism, and the detention and prosecution of whistleblowers. And the ooze of large-scale financial corruption, rate-rigging, theft and fraud goes on unpunished.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

  9. #37
    I may not agree with Wikileaks over on Sryia, but i do however support Assange, Wikleaks has been hijacked by the Gov.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    He's probably near the top of Obama's personal hit list anyway and would be "taken into custody" the same way OBL was...

    -t

  11. #39
    Pinochet killed 1000's of innocent civilians in next door Chile. Was there ever an Interpol global warrant on the brutal dictator? Nope!

    US butcher Henry Kissinger, backed El dictator Puppet Pinochet with covert weaponry and and American tax dollars to kill Chileans. Henry Kisser is wanted for WAR CRIMES and the death of 1000s across the globe in multiple countries. Did the UN or Interpol ever issue warrants for the arrest of Henry Kissinger? NOPE!

    The Hypocrites are the Evil motherfuckers residing in Washington DC and New York City terrorizing and raping the world, then creating a double standard...

    PS: $#@! Fascist FOX NEWS...

    PSS: Sweden has never issue an arrest for Julian Assange, they want him extradited to "so-call question him" with obviously, they can't do by Skype/IM/or news station cameras. Such BS... you know it's for TPTB to execute him in the US and make an example for all in the world to not $#@! with the most ruthless mafioso regime in the world.
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  12. #40
    Very apt tweet off twitter:

    seanbedlam ‏@seanbedlam
    Foreign Office refuses to grant Assange safe passage. You know what's foreign? The feeling that Ecuador is the Free World.
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  14. #41
    Haha, exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Just drive the car in the plane!

    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    But why can't the embassy just order like 200 large boxes and for a week have them coming in and coming out randomly, then when their attention is focused on him trying to sneak out in a boxe just walk him out the front door with a disguise.
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  16. #43
    Ecuador grants Julian Assange citizenship.

    After living more than five years inside the embassy, he has met Ecuador's three year residency requirement for citizenship.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Ecuador grants Julian Assange citizenship.

    After living more than five years inside the embassy, he has met Ecuador's three year residency requirement for citizenship.
    Does that mean he can move to Ecuador?

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Does that mean he can move to Ecuador?
    If he can get there without being assassinated.

    The man has a huge price on his head.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Does that mean he can move to Ecuador?
    If he can get there from the embassy in UK. Ecuador also named Assange a diplomat, but the UK refused to recognize his diplomatic status, meaning he still can't step outside the embassy.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  20. #47
    Hope he makes it... I wouldn't put it past US goobermint to "accidently" shoot down his plane.


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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Hope he makes it... I wouldn't put it past US goobermint to "accidently" shoot down his plane.

    Correction: ISIS will shoot down the plane.
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  23. #49
    Julian Assange latest: Arrest warrant for Wikileaks founder is still valid, judge rules

    In a string of tweets posted following the decision, Mr Assange dismissed "wall to wall fake news stating stating the government won today's hearing".
    He added: "Nothing of the sort has happened. The hearing is still happening. Only one point has been ruled on."
    "Judge has ruled against the first technical point the court now expected to hear and decide on the other points," Mr Assange said in another tweet.
    Following the judgment, Mr Assange's lawyer Mark Summers QC argued that his case should be discontinued because it was not proportionate in the interests of justice.
    He argued that the bail act offence he may face is not in the public interest, while the judge noted that it would be normal for the defendant to be present for that kind of hearing.
    Mr Summers said it was "unusual to have asylum within this country" but that the court could continue without him in this case.


    Upon arguing the public interest in dropping the warrant, he said Mr Assange had reasonable grounds or justification for failing to surrender.
    He said the UN has ruled that his situation is “arbitrary, unreasonable, unnecessary, and disproportionate”
    Mr Summers added that Mr Assange's conduct did not paralyse the underlying criminal proceedings and the time he has spent in the embassy could be seen to be punishment enough.
    He also told the court that Mr Assange has toothache which cannot be operated on, a frozen shoulder which causes constant pain and is suffering from depression.
    Mr Summers also highlighted that Mr Assange has access to a balcony but not an exercise yard which is a bare minimum even in prison.
    The judge wryly observed that there would be access to medical care in HMP Wandsworth. The case was adjourned until next Tuesday when the judge will rule on the latest application by Mr Assange's lawyer.

    More at: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/j...-a3759516.html
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  24. #50
    In a pivotal moment for Wikileaks' founder Julian Assange's long-running legal battle to regain his freedom after spending the last six years without sunlight at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, a UK judge delivered a disappointing ruling for Assange's defense team.
    After repudiating Assange's lawyers characterization of the circumstances of his confinement, the judge has rejected his bid to have the warrant dropped, upholding the state's case against the renown political dissident - who violated the terms of his bail in 2012 to show up at the Ecuadorian embassy disguised as a motorcycle courier.

    Judge refuses to withdraw Julian Assange arrest warrant. https://t.co/FQJJ4hxKzx
    — Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange) February 13, 2018
    Though the process isn't over yet, the judge's ruling that he had no reason to fear extradition to the US is a huge blow to his case for having the UK warrant dropped. In particular, the judge said Assange could leave the embassy whenever he liked, could have unlimited visitors, could choose when he eats and sleeps and exercises and even had access to sunlight via a balcony. Assange's lawyers had also argued that his years inside the embassy were "adequate" punishment for any crimes he may or may not have committed.

    Gasps in public gallery as judge says Assange can ‘leave the (Ecuadorian Embassy) whenever he likes, have unlimited visitors unsupervised, can choose when he eats, sleeps and exercises’. She’s knocking down most of Assange case to have arrest warrant dropped #Assange #wikileaks
    — Lisa Millar (@LisaMillar) February 13, 2018
    Sweden dropped rape charges against Assange nearly 10 months ago, but the UK has refused to let him off the hook. In fact, reporters discovered that Sweden wanted to drop its pursuit years ago, but was persuaded to continue by Assange...
    According tothe Guardian, Assange also suspects there is a secret US grand jury indictment against him and American authorities will seek his extradition.


    Jonathan Cook: The UK’s hidden role in Assange’s detention https://t.co/xzo4Cdc2Ny pic.twitter.com/485OtJ7xUi
    — Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange) February 13, 2018
    It appears as if the UK arrest warrant will be left in place, as Assange suggested in a tweet.

    Not looking good. So far, judge is just defending UK state actions.
    — Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange) February 13, 2018

    A bid to lift the arrest warrant last week was rejected when Judge Emma Arbuthnot rejected the notion that Sweden’s dropping of the case against Assange meant that the British authorities should no longer want him in custody. His defense team is arguing that Assange's further detention would not serve justice. Assange has argued that if he hadn’t fled to the embassy, he would have been extradited to the US to face an unfair trial for his work, which he believes is essentially not different from investigative journalism.
    In December, Assange received Ecuadorian citizenship, but the UK indicated it would not recognize his diplomatic status if requested by the Latin American nation, denying Assange the diplomatic immunity that would've allowed him to leave.
    The UN has twice ruled that Assange is being improperly detained in the UK, and investigative work done by an Italian journalist uncovered malfeasance at the Crown Prosecution Service.
    The judge also said that, if extradition motions were taken against Assange, he would be able to contest those.
    To be sure, the process isn't over yet. Assange noted that even if he loses the first point, the hearing may immediately continue on another...

    Today, 2pm GMT, 9am EST, judge rules on whether to lift my UK arrest warrant following revelations of improper conduct by the UK government. Note that a win is a win, but even if we lose the first point today the hearing may immediately continue on another https://t.co/LFGCOIS2ev
    — Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange) February 13, 2018

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...arrest-warrant
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  25. #51
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  26. #52
    Julian Assange is in immense danger. Remarks made this week by Ecuador’s foreign minister suggest that her government may be preparing to renege on the political asylum it granted to the WikiLeaks editor in 2012 and hand him over to British and then American authorities.
    On March 28, under immense pressure from the governments in the US, Britain and other powers, Ecuador imposed a complete ban on Assange having any Internet or phone contact with the outside world, and blocked his friends and supporters from physically visiting him. For 45 days, he has not been heard from.
    Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Maria Fernanda Espinosa stated in a Spanish-language interview on Wednesday that her government and Britain “have the intention and the interest that this be resolved.” Moves were underway, she said, to reach a “definite agreement” on Assange.
    If Assange falls into the hands of the British state, he faces being turned over to the US. Last year, US Attorney General Jeff Sessions stated that putting Assange on trial for espionage was a “priority.” CIA director Mike Pompeo, now secretary of state, asserted that WikiLeaks was a “non-state hostile intelligence service.”

    More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/ecuado...the-us/5640357
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #53
    Waiting to see over sized 'Diplomatic Bag' trying to crawl out of the embassy.

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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    Waiting to see over sized 'Diplomatic Bag' trying to crawl out of the embassy.
    I'm seriously surprised they didn't sneak him out years ago, how hard could it really have been? Watch him walk out now and nobody seizes him or gives a $#@!.

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