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    Julian Assange is a hero for telling the truth and Ecuador has made the right decision.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/world/...nge/?hpt=hp_t2



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    Good.
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    Now they just have to sneak him out... It won't be easy. I suspect Brittain may forceably enter the embassy if they have any inkling they might move him.

    This is like a real-life spy novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Now they just have to sneak him out... It won't be easy. I suspect Brittain may forceably enter the embassy if they have any inkling they might move him.

    This is like a real-life spy novel.
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    Actually, in the other thread it is detailed about how he can't even get to the diplomatic car without leaving the embassy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    That would seem reasonable, but apparently Britain doesn't believe that's true. They keep posturing about having the right under their laws to invade an embassy that is suspected of being an international criminal.

    This is where the whole intrigue is playing out. Britain wants him, but they don't want to upset the political applecart. But if they think they might lose him forever, they may just go ahead with their plans.
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    Good stuff. Gotta get him out now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    Good idea!
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    Are the Ecuadorians assured he wont be extradited to the uS?
    If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    Are the Ecuadorians assured he wont be extradited to the uS?
    The Ecuadorian president is no fan of the US govt, I don't think he would put much stock in such "assurances". Hell, anybody that read the leaked documents in regards to Qaddafi would know better than to trust US or our little dog the UK either.

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    Diplomatic helicopter with rope latter hanging down?

    Tell me it wouldn't be a fitting end for this movie scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Now they just have to sneak him out... It won't be easy. I suspect Brittain may forceably enter the embassy if they have any inkling they might move him.

    This is like a real-life spy novel.
    He can actually stay in the embassy for years if he can take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Good.
    What he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    Can they not grant him citizenship and status as a diplomat? There is your immunity. $#@! the manky Britties and dumbass Swedes.
    Last edited by osan; 08-16-2012 at 10:16 AM.
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    It seems now the Swedes are summoning the Ecuadorian Ambassador. I hope these folks are up to the pressure. They want this guy and they will use whatever means they can to get him. Obviously, they want to do it as politically justifiably as possible, but when those plans run out, watch out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    That would seem reasonable, but apparently Britain doesn't believe that's true. They keep posturing about having the right under their laws to invade an embassy that is suspected of being an international criminal.

    This is where the whole intrigue is playing out. Britain wants him, but they don't want to upset the political applecart. But if they think they might lose him forever, they may just go ahead with their plans.

    That would be a HORRENDOUS precedent to set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Can they not grant him citizenship and status as a diplomat? There is your immunity. $#@! the manky Britties and dumbass Swedes.
    yes but diplomatic immunity has to be given by the country the diplomat works in.And the UK will not give him the immunity.The only place he can stay is the embassy or its car.

    When I though about it he can not even get on a plane or a ship because the UK will ground any plane or stop the ship from leaving harbor.The only thing he can do is go with the diplomatic car to France ( trough the tunnel ) where he can be picked up by a car from the Ecuador embassy in France in no-mans land.Then the same with Germany until he can get to a country like Slovakia,Czech republic,Poland who may let him take a plane or somehow manage to get to Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    Oooo, very smart! Just drive onto the plane! Good thinking!
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    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    Oooo, very smart! Just drive onto the plane! Good thinking!
    They will ground the plane because the plane does not fall under diplomatic immunity also the smart Ecuador government only has the first floor of the building so only the first floor has immunity.So they will have to first come up with a way to get the car to the first floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    Such a sad reality to be living in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only thing he can do is go with the diplomatic car to France ( trough the tunnel ) where he can be picked up by a car from the Ecuador embassy in France in no-mans land.Then the same with Germany until he can get to a country like Slovakia,Czech republic,Poland who may let him take a plane or somehow manage to get to Russia
    He'd never get to that plane, they'd be taken by some mercenaries, extraordinary renditioned and never heard from again.

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    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    +1984

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    Why can't they use a helicopter and fly him out into the ocean to be picked up by a ship? Of course, the HMS $#@!s would probably be on him in .5 seconds.
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    What I find absolutely hilarious is that it was only recently when the British Embassy in Iran was raided by Iranian citizens and everyone was throwing a $#@! fit about that. It's wrong when you do that to the diplomatic sovereign soil of Britain! But not if Britain does it to other countries. Ah the hypocrisy of Statism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    We could always chip in the Ron Paul Blimp and have it use cables to lift up the diplomatic car and float him to safety!
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    Is this so he gets extradited on the rape charges or what
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    Is this so he gets extradited on the rape charges or what
    It is "or what".
    It is an attempt to avoid execution in the US for publishing the truth.
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    I was just researching Ecuador the other day. Lots of X Pats heading that way; now I know why. Looks like a great place to live, and it's cheap.

    http://www.southamericaliving.com/ch...canoa-ecuador/

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