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    Ecuador grants political asylum to WikiLeaks' Julian Assange

    Julian Assange is a hero for telling the truth and Ecuador has made the right decision.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/world/...nge/?hpt=hp_t2



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    Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Good.
    What he said.
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    Now they just have to sneak him out... It won't be easy. I suspect Brittain may forceably enter the embassy if they have any inkling they might move him.

    This is like a real-life spy novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Now they just have to sneak him out... It won't be easy. I suspect Brittain may forceably enter the embassy if they have any inkling they might move him.

    This is like a real-life spy novel.
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    Good idea!
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    Are the Ecuadorians assured he wont be extradited to the uS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    Oooo, very smart! Just drive onto the plane! Good thinking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    Oooo, very smart! Just drive onto the plane! Good thinking!
    They will ground the plane because the plane does not fall under diplomatic immunity also the smart Ecuador government only has the first floor of the building so only the first floor has immunity.So they will have to first come up with a way to get the car to the first floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    We could always chip in the Ron Paul Blimp and have it use cables to lift up the diplomatic car and float him to safety!
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    Haha, exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Just drive the car in the plane!

    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Chip in for a cargo plane, anyone?
    But why can't the embassy just order like 200 large boxes and for a week have them coming in and coming out randomly, then when their attention is focused on him trying to sneak out in a boxe just walk him out the front door with a disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    Actually, in the other thread it is detailed about how he can't even get to the diplomatic car without leaving the embassy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    That would seem reasonable, but apparently Britain doesn't believe that's true. They keep posturing about having the right under their laws to invade an embassy that is suspected of being an international criminal.

    This is where the whole intrigue is playing out. Britain wants him, but they don't want to upset the political applecart. But if they think they might lose him forever, they may just go ahead with their plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    That would seem reasonable, but apparently Britain doesn't believe that's true. They keep posturing about having the right under their laws to invade an embassy that is suspected of being an international criminal.

    This is where the whole intrigue is playing out. Britain wants him, but they don't want to upset the political applecart. But if they think they might lose him forever, they may just go ahead with their plans.

    That would be a HORRENDOUS precedent to set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only time they can take him is when he leaves the diplomatic car to get on a plane.Unless Ecuador finds a way to get him on an airplane while he is IN the car .
    Can they not grant him citizenship and status as a diplomat? There is your immunity. $#@! the manky Britties and dumbass Swedes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Can they not grant him citizenship and status as a diplomat? There is your immunity. $#@! the manky Britties and dumbass Swedes.
    yes but diplomatic immunity has to be given by the country the diplomat works in.And the UK will not give him the immunity.The only place he can stay is the embassy or its car.

    When I though about it he can not even get on a plane or a ship because the UK will ground any plane or stop the ship from leaving harbor.The only thing he can do is go with the diplomatic car to France ( trough the tunnel ) where he can be picked up by a car from the Ecuador embassy in France in no-mans land.Then the same with Germany until he can get to a country like Slovakia,Czech republic,Poland who may let him take a plane or somehow manage to get to Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    The only thing he can do is go with the diplomatic car to France ( trough the tunnel ) where he can be picked up by a car from the Ecuador embassy in France in no-mans land.Then the same with Germany until he can get to a country like Slovakia,Czech republic,Poland who may let him take a plane or somehow manage to get to Russia
    He'd never get to that plane, they'd be taken by some mercenaries, extraordinary renditioned and never heard from again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Now they just have to sneak him out... It won't be easy. I suspect Brittain may forceably enter the embassy if they have any inkling they might move him.

    This is like a real-life spy novel.
    He can actually stay in the embassy for years if he can take it.

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    Ecuador grants Julian Assange citizenship.

    After living more than five years inside the embassy, he has met Ecuador's three year residency requirement for citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Ecuador grants Julian Assange citizenship.

    After living more than five years inside the embassy, he has met Ecuador's three year residency requirement for citizenship.
    Does that mean he can move to Ecuador?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Does that mean he can move to Ecuador?
    If he can get there without being assassinated.

    The man has a huge price on his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Does that mean he can move to Ecuador?
    If he can get there from the embassy in UK. Ecuador also named Assange a diplomat, but the UK refused to recognize his diplomatic status, meaning he still can't step outside the embassy.
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    Good stuff. Gotta get him out now.
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    Diplomatic helicopter with rope latter hanging down?

    Tell me it wouldn't be a fitting end for this movie scenario?

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    It seems now the Swedes are summoning the Ecuadorian Ambassador. I hope these folks are up to the pressure. They want this guy and they will use whatever means they can to get him. Obviously, they want to do it as politically justifiably as possible, but when those plans run out, watch out.
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    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    Such a sad reality to be living in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    I read that, and I realized, in a split second, far from being a guarantee, it is likely that he would be whisked off to permanent detention or summary execution by military tribunal.

    And I actually cried a little...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    "In the United States, there are no guarantees that Assange would receive a fair trial or that he wouldn't be subject to a military or secret tribunal"

    -Such a sad sentence to read.
    He's probably near the top of Obama's personal hit list anyway and would be "taken into custody" the same way OBL was...

    -t

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