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Thread: Person Kicked Out of a Mitt Romney Event and Arrested.

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    Person Kicked Out of a Mitt Romney Event and Arrested.

    Who: Matt Bieber is a graduate student in politics, religion and public discourse at Harvard University's Kennedy School and Divinity School.
    What: Arrested at a Mitt Romney Event
    When: Before the Primary
    Where: New Hampshire
    Why: The Police State
    How: Goons in Costumes

    Welcome to America. Comment and tell his readers to vote Ron Paul so we can end Civil Rights violations.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-b...b_1203068.html
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    Ouch. Romney was in my town today. Was tempted to go but didn't feel like throwing up today. The local media is really whoring him up.
    Rand Paul 2016

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    I just read this on his Blue Republican facebook post. Pretty crazy wake up story.

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    I've heard of people getting attacked and manhandled just for asking him why Goldman Sachs gives huge donations to both him and Obama.

    This is the new America...you lick their boots or disappear.

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    Woooooooah

    It gives us an idea of what a Police Nation Romney would run.

    This is scary stuff.
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    Don't go to Romney events go knock on doors you make a bigger impact knocking on doors

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    Police nowadays will lie and abuse your rights just to find a reason to arrest you. Have heard many stories like this in the past few years and it is very frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilcox71 View Post
    Don't go to Romney events go knock on doors you make a bigger impact knocking on doors
    This guy was still undecided and looking to consider Romney for the evening!



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    Romney's event was on private property. They can ask anyone to leave they want to. Writer of the article didn't leave when asked. Was it a legal arrest? Sure it was. Does it reflect badly on Romney's campaign? If the writer is honest about the situation, it sure looks bad.

    I hope nobody here to goes on a rant and hope everyone respects property rights.

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    Can this fellow sue somebody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Was it a legal arrest? Sure it was.
    How was it legal? They could escort him out but how can they arrest him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Can this fellow sue somebody?
    He can definitely show up in court and fight the charges. He can also do what he has done: publish everything and hope it goes viral. I hope it does. I hope the major networks pick this story up and he becomes the 2012 equivalent of Joe Plumber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Romney's event was on private property. They can ask anyone to leave they want to. Writer of the article didn't leave when asked. Was it a legal arrest? Sure it was. Does it reflect badly on Romney's campaign? If the writer is honest about the situation, it sure looks bad.

    I hope nobody here to goes on a rant and hope everyone respects property rights.
    The Police are not private security. If this were private security the man would be asked to leave and if he were disruptive he would be physically thrown off the premises, in the same way a bar handles drunken patrons. Instead, "Mittens" Romney was able to hire militarized police officers (costumed statist goons) to imprison, identify, fingerprint, photograph and interrogate an innocent civilian who tried to stand up for his Natural Rights. That is a major problem for me in a country I call my own.
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

    "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" - Sam Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Can this fellow sue somebody?
    For? Statements like yours are a big part of what's wrong with our country.

    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    How was it legal? They could escort him out but how can they arrest him?
    The Romeny event was on private property. The writer did not leave when requested. That's criminal trespass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Romney's event was on private property. They can ask anyone to leave they want to. Writer of the article didn't leave when asked. Was it a legal arrest? Sure it was. Does it reflect badly on Romney's campaign? If the writer is honest about the situation, it sure looks bad.

    I hope nobody here to goes on a rant and hope everyone respects property rights.
    The "can't return to the street -- you'll be arrested if you use your first amendment rights" nonsense is absolutely unacceptable.

    And he should have been given a final warning before being arrested.
    “If you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.” -CS Lewis

    The use of force to impose morality is itself immoral, and generosity with others' money is still theft.

    If our society were a forum, congress would be the illiterate troll that somehow got a hold of the only ban hammer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    The Police are not private security. If this were private security the man would be asked to leave and if he were disruptive he would be physically thrown off the premises, in the same way a bar handles drunken patrons. Instead, "Mittens" Romney was able to hire militarized police officers (costumed statist goons) to imprison, identify, fingerprint, photograph and interrogate an innocent civilian who tried to stand up for his Natural Rights. That is a major problem for me in a country I call my own.
    Property owners have rights. They can ask anyone to leave they want to.

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    If the account is accurate there is grounds for a lawsuit. It is private property though, and if they asked you to leave and you did not then they had grounds to remove you. Did they charge you with trespassing?

    Oh I just realized it wasn't YOU , you were just pointing out the article. I don't want to submit my login details to comment on his post really.

    ...and to the person who said filing lawsuits is what is wrong with this country I disagree, it's the only way the system allows you to push back , it's not frivolous at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    Who: Matt Bieber is a graduate student in politics, religion and public discourse at Harvard University's Kennedy School and Divinity School.
    What: Arrested at a Mitt Romney Event
    When: Before the Primary
    Where: New Hampshire
    Why: The Police State
    How: Goons in Costumes

    Welcome to America. Comment and tell his readers to vote Ron Paul so we can end Civil Rights violations.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-b...b_1203068.html
    Last edited by jd603; 01-12-2012 at 10:03 PM.

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    Yeah, it's a legal arrest. I suspect he's being a little disingenuous about why he was at Romney's HQ earlier, but whatever.

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    It has been getting worse for decades, the citizens of America have been complacent, as well as elected all of the people who have made things this way. All of a sudden everyone is talking about the obvious results of that type of lifestyle like this just magically happened one day: it has been a gradual process, slow and gradual. It will be a sad future if Ron Paul is not elected because they are on the verge of complete control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Property owners have rights. They can ask anyone to leave they want to.
    The police officer was not the property owner.
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

    "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" - Sam Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Property owners have rights. They can ask anyone to leave they want to.
    Not if it's open to the public. This is why Ron was against the Civil Rights Act, because no private property owners with doors open to the public had to serve "the public" no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    For? Statements like yours are a big part of what's wrong with our country.
    Yes, inquiring who is eligible for a civil suit is the type of thing that is ruining our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    The police officer was not the property owner.
    The people renting the property had control over the venue, and told the officer to order the man to leave. The man didn't, so he was trespassing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CJLauderdale4 View Post
    Not if it's open to the public. This is why Ron was against the Civil Rights Act, because no private property owners with doors open to the public had to serve "the public" no matter what.
    An event that is open to the public can still ban individuals, just as a restaurant open to the public can decide they don't want this guy eating there.

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    If he was asked to leave and did not, the officer was justified (as it was open to the public). If he did not ask or this guy was on his way out and just asking some questions then the officer did not have grounds to arrest and charge him. He still could have removed him from the property however.

    Quote Originally Posted by CJLauderdale4 View Post
    Not if it's open to the public. This is why Ron was against the Civil Rights Act, because no private property owners with doors open to the public had to serve "the public" no matter what.

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    If this is true then yes, he could have been charged with trespassing.

    Quote Originally Posted by kylejack View Post
    The people renting the property had control over the venue, and told the officer to order the man to leave. The man didn't, so he was trespassing.

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    This is only one side of the story. I would like to hear the officer's side and the Romney's campaign side.

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    First, I suspect that the man isn't saying everything straightly. Second, even in his version of the story he was arrestable for trespassing.

    The two things that get me about the story are the ability to hire police, and the fact that he couldn't talk to the media nor be in the street near the event.

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    I really really really hope Paul does not sale out and team up with mittens.

    Some one should address me starting with ' ye of little faith'
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