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To show that he is still in the race.
Who should it be?
If, then
Rand Paul
I don't know. Maybe Paul should follow what is really supposed to happen and say 'the CONVENTION is supposed to pick the president.... AND the Vice President....'
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Sarah Palin If nothing else, it will get media attention, and I am growing weary of the all boy's club. She has not endorsed Romney and I think she would do it! I can only imagine the crowds they would draw!
Last edited by TrishW; 08-11-2012 at 11:18 AM.
Get over it.. Sarah Palin is a joke. Admittely i used to like her back in 2008 but her true colors have come out and she's just milking any attention she is getting.Originally Posted by TrishW
Sorry if i offended any Palin fans or if I broke some internet treaty but that's the truth that i feel.
I think the issue is something to appeal to the other delegates there in a floor fight if it comes to that, and someone Ron could pick without offending us likely wouldn't attract those delegates. So my thought was more, who could we bear, as second, that they might like....
It isn't likely to be a problem we need to deal with, but if it were, we would need to buy leverage with it imho.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
In other words, let's play politics and use people to further our agenda
As horrible as this sounds, if Ron Paul really wants to take over the convention and win the nomination then I think his campaign needs to talk to the Santorum campaign and agree to a Paul/Santorum ticket. Most of the constitutional and social conservatives would switch from being loyal to Romney and cast their votes for Paul, thus causing a brokered convention.
Choosing Palin could also do this but I'm fairly confident that Santorum would be the best bet to help Paul win the nomination.
- ML
I don't know. I think at this point the only actual 'Santorum backers' are really moral majority, not specifically Santorum and they had him in low single digits until the fake Santorum surge by CNN in Iowa made the religious vote go to Santorum. I dont think they are utterly sold on him. Palin, Bachmann someone like that might fire them up equally as much. Of the two, I like Palin because she is independent, more, and I think she doesn't really have a set foreign policy she is sold on, to be honest. Neither are my candidates. But Bachmann voted for NDAA and to extend the Patriot Act etc etc.
However, I find it hard to get BEHIND any of them and wouldn't want Ron to pick them and take on their policies. I'd rather the VP was picked from the floor where compromises wouldn't taint Ron.
Last edited by sailingaway; 08-11-2012 at 11:36 AM.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
would hurt Paul since he already said that Sweater vest is a fake... the would reflect badly... but Paul could make a statement that would get some awareness... Paul could state that he is "considering Romney on his short list of running mates" ... but doubt Paul will do any of this since its against the Party rules for a candidate to choose a running mate before coming the actual nominee
hellz no. absolutely not. not only do they have nothing in common, not only would you be putting a warmongering wingnut second in line, but you'd absolutely destroy the most important thing Ron Paul brings to the table - his ability to draw independents. Santorum is... NO. Just no.
"Ron Paul, not going anywhere. Ideologically pure and tough as nails!"
ABO + NOBP = Ron Paul
Romney - NOBP = Obama
Post Election Addendum -
We warned you. You insulted and cheated us. You lost. Your fault.
Santorum and Ron Paul have absolutely nothing in common.
Michael Landon may be onto something here. They both have considerable favor with anti-Romney GOP voters. But the establishment would ruin Santorum's career for going rogue on them.
Well the both believe Iran doesn't want a nuke to bomb Israel with. Except Santorum lies about this whenever he's on national TV.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Santorum hates paul. YAWN
I bet a Ron Paul / Sarah Palin ticket would kill the opposition. I have this undeniable quality of being an average American, and I say the polls would crash for Obama if this was the other choice.
I'd take it. The powers to be may not let it last long, but Ron in office for even a short time would allow him to veto a number of bills.
It would be a brilliant move by the campaign if they tried this. I doubt they will, but it could be a major game changer.
If Ron is at the top of the ticket, I'm fine.
Last edited by rockandrollsouls; 08-11-2012 at 07:20 PM.
Beware of these Obama supporters: ProBlue33, newbitech, libertarian4321, Kade, Electronicmajji, SeanEdwards,
Palin/Paul or Paul/Palin would win.
My pick......
NEWT GINGRICH!!
What?? Why Newt?
Newt was already a candidate and drew a lot of 'Tea Party' support. This blunts the Ryan pick by Romney.
Ideologically, Ron and Newt are miles apart, but Newt is more malleable than Santorum and could be made to 'see the light' so to speak. Even with all his flaws, people like Newt. His name recognition is 100% and he has a supreme knowledge of the nuts and bolts workings of Congress. Plus, Newt has delegates.
There is a lot to criticize about Newt and I could certainly pick others that would be a better 'fit' with Ron Paul, but no other that has a chance of helping him win, both at the convention and in November.
"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form"..... Jefferson Davis
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle".
.....Edmund Burke
"A corrupt electoral process can only lead to corrupt Government."
......jay_dub
Couple of things....
1) Santorum hates Romney.
2) Ron Paul has nothing in common with any of the Republicans.
3) If we want to be serious about getting Paul the nomination, we need to compromise a bit. I'm sorry but Ron Paul announcing Napolitano, or Walter Williams as his VP isn't going to get the social conservatives to switch from Romney to Paul.
Santorum is horrible, I know this, but I'm looking at what is the most important right now, Obama/Biden vs Romney/Ryan or Obama/Biden vs Paul/Santorum. Which one would you choose?
- ML
I'd choose to fight it out on the floor at RNC where Ron isn't tainted by the result, but has it presented to him by the delegates.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
I would too, but going into the convention with a 5% chance of coming out with the nomination by doing it that way versus working a deal with Santorum and almost guaranteeing the nomination is better in my opinion.
- ML
um. maybe.
but isn't it really the delegates, not Santorum who are the question? And would one of their leaders be better to discuss it with and maybe get a better choice?
I think this is all pretty unlikely, but if we are playing with the thought, and why shouldn't we, it seems to me these aren't so much Santorum's followers as the moral majority folks already in the system, and they just took whichever 'religiously approved' candidate was surging. I guess the question is who would those of them who are delegates follow?
Last edited by sailingaway; 08-11-2012 at 11:53 AM.
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
...Getting Santorum's agreement would not 'guarantee' victory in any way, shape or form. Romney would still be the overwhelming favorite to win.
So do I. NO.
That's not true at all. He is the embodiment of what Ronald Reagan only talked about.2) Ron Paul has nothing in common with any of the Republicans.
Santorum is a big government leftist. No.3) If we want to be serious about getting Paul the nomination, we need to compromise a bit. I'm sorry but Ron Paul announcing Napolitano, or Walter Williams as his VP isn't going to get the social conservatives to switch from Romney to Paul.
Santorum is horrible, I know this, but I'm looking at what is the most important right now, Obama/Biden vs Romney/Ryan or Obama/Biden vs Paul/Santorum. Which one would you choose?
- ML
the Santorum people got cheated by Romney too - while Santorum has nothing in common policy-wise, politics-wise there are significant mutual interests in not allowing Communists like Romney to control the GOP.
Judge Nap.
Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
~ George Washington
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