I was (illegally) detained by the TSA today

[pcosmar]

that's like saying no one forced drug addicts to do drugs and they would've been better if drugs were taken away for them, thus, there should be a war on drugs. your idea is absolutely ridiculous.

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What the fuck are you talking about, and why does it not make one bit of logical sense?

And what does it have to do with TSA Tyranny?

[Ender]

that's like saying no one forced drug addicts to do drugs and they would've been better off if drugs were taken away from them, thus, there should be a war on drugs. your idea is absolutely ridiculous.

Ah...Will Smith time:

"That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard anyone say- EVER."

[low preference guy]

Ah...Will Smith time:

"That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard anyone say- EVER."

gonna break it down for the brain-damaged among us.

No one forced them- but 1 or 2 people with CCW could have taken that guy out with a lot less dead and injured.

that's like saying no one forced drug addicts to do drugs and they would've been better off if drugs were taken away from them, thus, there should be a war on drugs. your idea is absolutely ridiculous.

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but 1 or 2 people with CCW could have taken that guy out with a lot less dead and injured.

they would've been better off if drugs were taken away from them

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this should be the requisite:

• Provide armed security.
• Legally defined 'no-firearms' signs must be posted at every entrance and exit to the property and each building.
• Pay a special insurance to cover the increased crime rate on gun-free-zones and cover liability (because the owner will be fully liable).

there should be a war on drugs.

[Ender]

gonna break it down for the brain-damaged among us.

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It is better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and be known as one.

[dillo]

And if enough people decided not to fly, the airlines would shut down and the TSA would have to get much smaller.

Come on man be realistic if we boycotted the airlines to the point that they shut down, you know damn well TSA would be at bus stops, starbucks, sporting events, concerts, in the middle of dirt roads, in the woods.........

[chudrockz]

Then you don't love your family. Or something.

LOL I do, really. I also love my Ford Explorer, and NOT being violated or witnessing gramma being humiliated, which would result in me assaulting a thug (defending a gramma, in other words) and me being arrested.

No thanks, I'll drive. Even cross-country.

[Dr.3D]

Come on man be realistic if we boycotted the airlines to the point that they shut down, you know damn well TSA would be at bus stops, starbucks, sporting events, concerts, in the middle of dirt roads, in the woods.........

I have no doubt they will be at those places anyway.

[LibForestPaul]

Tell me you're joking.

If you had constitutionally protected rights, you would not have been felt up, and forced to show id to get to the area where you face continual harassment by people with shiny badges and cute patches asking for id.

[angelatc]

No, it makes you a short-sighted hipster.

Did you miss Pete talking about not seeing family just a few miles a way? Did you miss a vehicle being x-rayed? Did you miss security checkpoints popping up for cars, buses, boats, and other methods of transportation? Or are you so principled you will never leave your home (good luck, btw; there is technology to see through your walls as well)?

A few generations ago, I would be on the same island my family still lives on. You know, the family you think I should never see again. I guess there really is no "need" to interact with family members, so color me a selfish jerk who wants to do it anyhow.

You can "protest" a fully-funded Government agency by not using its services, sure, and still fund it with tax dollars. If you poke someone in the arm during a massive earthquake, they may feel it as well.

Your vehicles are subject to search as well. It's going to be a long walk to the next place you need to get to. Maybe you should start now?

Of course, you are personally also subject to detainment and search and requests for ID just walking. So we're back to staying home and speaking in hushed whispers about what it used to be like to go outside.

Nobody's ever called me a hipster, that's for sure.

The spread of the TSA isn't my fault. The "...but I *NEED* / am entitled to fly" crowd are the ones giving the green light to government. Because they got away with it at the airports, there's no reason to think they won't try to expand the program.

I train animals. I can assure you that humans aren't much different. The trainer doesn't care if the animals wants to do the routine - that's why there's a treat at the end.

But as long as people feel entitled to have that jet-setter lifestyle, flying back and forth from their real lives back to their islands...well, that's the important thing.

[MelissaWV]

My family's from an island. I'm sorry you view going to see them as a "jet-setter lifestyle." Perhaps you don't care to interact with them in person.

As long as people pretend that not flying is somehow going to make everything better---because the TSA would never show up at docks or bus stations or right in the middle of the street---well, that's the important thing.