Chip In to Bail Out Roger Pion

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Yes- taxpayer's money. Now this city will have to get more tax money from its citizens to pay for what this person did. Unless he is forced to come up with it- and it doesn't sound like he has the estimated $250,000.

I'm forced to have insurance, but they aren't? wtf??? I drive to work and back. They do all sorts of ridiculous nonsense, purposely ram their cars into people, run people off the road, break doors down, etc, and they don't carry insurance? Really? lol, wtf.

[Tod]

One of the latest arrests was because he had a dog in his front seat.

Wow, I never heard of that being a crime. Good grief!

[Origanalist]

Yes- taxpayer's money. They are the ones who are going to have to foot the bill on this one. Now this city will have to get more tax money from its citizens to pay for what this person did. Unless he is forced to come up with it- and it doesn't sound like he has the estimated $250,000.

Well just tack that on to the money they pony up for welfare, war and the police state.

It's starting to sound like money well spent, this could be a "teachable moment".

[Zippyjuan]

Well just tack that on to the money they pony up for welfare, war and the police state.

It's starting to sound like money well spent, this could be a "teachable moment".

Ah. So you are in favor of more government spending and higher taxes then?

[Zippyjuan]

I'm forced to have insurance, but they aren't? wtf??? I drive to work and back. They do all sorts of ridiculous nonsense, purposely ram their cars into people, run people off the road, break doors down, etc, and they don't carry insurance? Really? lol, wtf.

OK- perhaps insurance will pick it up. Then it will just get added onto the premiums the insurance company charges its rate payers. That would still include the taxpayers.

Ever notice how your rates go up when you file a claim on anything- usually by enough to pay for the claim in a couple years or so?

[Origanalist]

Ah. So you are in favor of more government spending and higher taxes then?

Yes, ring up the tab until people finally realize their folly for supporting unconstitutional, immoral, state tyranny. Make it so $#@!ing expensive the wars look like a bargain.

what's your solution?

Ps. I'm off the web for a while.

[pcosmar]

Ah. So you are in favor of more government spending and higher taxes then?

I am in favor of firing the lot of them and saving the money.
Perhaps the "taxpayer" will wise up and do just that.

This looks like another clear cut case of Blowback.

[IDefendThePlatform]

Tuesday, Pion pled not guilty to all 14 charges related to the alleged tractor rampage.

Do Vermont judges allow jury nullification? I googled it but couldn't find anything.

[Origanalist]

Do Vermont judges allow jury nullification? I googled it but couldn't find anything.

It wouldn't matter if they allowed it or not if enough people understood the concept. People need to quit thinking in the terms they are "allowed" to.

[Revolution9]

My fave so far!

heh
Rev9

[Revolution9]

Yes- taxpayer's money. They are the ones who are going to have to foot the bill on this one. Now this city will have to get more tax money from its citizens to pay for what this person did. Unless he is forced to come up with it- and it doesn't sound like he has the estimated $250,000.

Nope. Red herring to get taxpayers mad at him. They have insurance on the cop cars. To not have insurance when they may be used to stop rogue semi-trailers is bogus and probably against statute law..which they should be following considering they are "officers" of that jurisdiction.

Rev9

[Revolution9]

OK- perhaps insurance will pick it up. Then it will just get added onto the premiums the insurance company charges its rate payers. That would still include the taxpayers.

BS.. Yer just pulling a different version of the same tactic because your previous attempts got skewered. To spread this damage across as a percentile as an increase would probably add less than a cent onto others policies.

Rev9

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Do Vermont judges allow jury nullification? I googled it but couldn't find anything.

Last I heard, nobody really "allows" it. Judges will pretend it doesn't exist, and tell you how exactly how you are to reach your verdict. If you go talking about it during voir dire, you'll get dismissed.

Originalist is right... as long as we still have trial by jury, then jury nullification exists. It was actually meant to be a star feature of the system. Judges do try to stop it by the instructions they give.

[pcosmar]

Ok,, Best I've seen yet,, out of many good ones,

[tod evans]

4-stars!

Ok,, Best I've seen yet,, out of many good ones,

[Origanalist]

Ok,, Best I've seen yet,, out of many good ones,

Excellent! I wonder where that top photo was taken?

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Excellent! I wonder where that top photo was taken?

I'm sure it was created instead of photographed.

I heard back from Roger's sister.

Great thank u so much... I appreciate your help and roger will too. Thanks for the support.

I'm working on some twitter promotion right now, and probably have a guy for it. Please PM me if that is your thing, or you can help with some other marketing. I'll pay, provided it is competitive with other options.

And the site needs links... (freeroger.com) so if you can link it from your own web properties, please do so. Don't be too spammy. You guys know what I mean.

I later envision a FIJA effort launched from the site.

[Origanalist]

I'm sure it was created instead of photographed.

I heard back from Roger's sister.





I'm working on some twitter promotion right now, and probably have a guy for it. Please PM me if that is your thing, or you can help with some other marketing. I'll pay, provided it is competitive with other options.

And the site needs links... (freeroger.com) so if you can link it from your own web properties, please do so. Don't be too spammy. You guys know what I mean.

I later envision a FIJA effort launched from the site.

I am technologically challenged...........

just an old construction guy. But I think what you guys are doing is great.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

I am technologically challenged...........

just an old construction guy. But I think what you guys are doing is great.

You can drop the url (http://freeroger.com) where you see the issue being discussed on news sites, blogs, wherever. A link is good, and a citation (mentioning it without a link) is also useful. I'm popping links to it now, but diversity in backlinks is great.

Facebook promotion is also good, but there may also be some people there wishing to control the donation flow, so please don't spam facebook groups with the link. A little is ok, but let's not anger the admins of those pages. Post on your own wall if you wish, but I don't want our efforts to turn into some kind of pissing contest with other people who are helping. FreeRoger.com is not the official site of anything at all, and wants no claim to such. But I do think we can do quite a bit of good with it.

[Danke]

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 5WY35802RY210492R.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 5WY35802RY210492R.

Danke

[Origanalist]

You can drop the url (http://freeroger.com) where you see the issue being discussed on news sites, blogs, wherever. A link is good, and a citation (mentioning it without a link) is also useful. I'm popping links to it now, but diversity in backlinks is great.

Facebook promotion is also good, but there may also be some people there wishing to control the donation flow, so please don't spam facebook groups with the link. A little is ok, but let's not anger the admins of those pages. Post on your own wall if you wish, but I don't want our efforts to turn into some kind of pissing contest with other people who are helping. FreeRoger.com is not the official site of anything at all, and wants no claim to such. But I do think we can do quite a bit of good with it.

I don't facebook, the other suggestions are good advice.

[Origanalist]

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 5WY35802RY210492R.

Danke!
Danke!
Danke!

[KCIndy]

Jeez, it's no wonder the guy was pissed.

Here's an account of one of his earlier encounters with the kind and gentle government minions whose job is to "Protect and Serve" the public:
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...NEWS/708079941

In the incident last month, Newport City police pulled over the driver of a green 1998 Acura CL for speeding and failing to display a current license plate registration sticker. GASP - obviously hardened criminals here

Following a search that resulted in a marijuana possession charge against Pion, who was a passenger, police discovered that Pion had an outstanding warrant against him. I wonder if the warrant was a "failure to appear" on one of the earlier BS misdemeanor charges

While the driver and another passenger obeyed officers’ command to leave the vehicle, Pion refused, they said, and resisted when they started pulling him out forcibly.

“It is important to note, in prior incidents involving law enforcement encounters with Pion, this individual has acted uncooperative and aggressive,” Newport City Police Department officer Aaron Lefebvre said in his sworn account of the incident.

“Pion assumed an assaultive and resistive stance,” Lefebvre, wrote, before his stronger efforts and assistance from two other officers resulted in “Pion being transferred to the ground,” where, according to the officer, he continued to resist arrest. "Transferred to the ground" ??? Wow, can the euphemistic doublespeak get any more Orwellian??

Police were able to handcuff him, and then summoned an ambulance for the “non-life threatening injuries he sustained during resistance,” Lefebvre wrote. Translation: they beat the hell out of him to the point that serious medical attention was deemed necessary. So yeah, I guess it CAN get more Orwellian.

[Origanalist]

Jeez, it's no wonder the guy was pissed.

Here's an account of one of his earlier encounters with the kind and gentle government minions whose job is to "Protect and Serve" the public:
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...NEWS/708079941

Taken from another article found at your link;

“It was not a tractor malfunction,” Delabruere said, “It was a brain malfunction.” Delabruere lives about eight miles north of Newport in West Charleston, Vt., five miles or so from the Canadian border. He has owned his dealership for 30 years.

“In all my life, I'll never see that again,” he said.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/708079943



Hmmmmm, I wouldn't be so sure......

[pcosmar]

Hmmmmm, I wouldn't be so sure......

Me either.
Wait till they start coming out of barns,,armored up.

[Whoprang]

Hi, I'm a relative of Roger. I was asked to jump in here.

[Whoprang]

Roger wasn't arrested for having his dog in the front seat but he was stopped for it, so I was told. I plan on talking to his mother this weekend to get more details of that event. I have been hearing from various family members for years about how he gets pulled over for no reason, hoping to find anything to give him a citation; police cruising by his parents house all the time looking to see if he is out driving around, etc.

[Origanalist]

Roger wasn't arrested for having his dog in the front seat but he was stopped for it, so I was told. I plan on talking to his mother this weekend to get more details of that event. I have been hearing from various family members for years about how he gets pulled over for no reason, hoping to find anything to give him a citation; police cruising by his parents house all the time looking to see if he is out driving around, etc.

Hey! Welcome, it's nice to know we will have an inside track and not just what we can glean out of the media spin. Hope you come around often.

[Revolution9]

Roger wasn't arrested for having his dog in the front seat but he was stopped for it, so I was told. I plan on talking to his mother this weekend to get more details of that event. I have been hearing from various family members for years about how he gets pulled over for no reason, hoping to find anything to give him a citation; police cruising by his parents house all the time looking to see if he is out driving around, etc.

Figured as much. Small town cops get a hardon for somebody and they are relentless due to boredom and no frikkin' ethics. They do not care if they ruin their life by locking them up and losing workdays and then going down the tubes financially. Tractors need to keep a rollin'.

Rev9