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    This is easy enough to solve, though.

    People critical of the guy's actions should probably just not donate, and reflect on how a few people have a huge axe to grind on this issue one way or another.

    People who think this guy is utterly awesome should pony up some money. I see a whole lot of supporters in this thread, but he's only at $600? Instead of arguing, you could promote this cause and spread the word, and put your money into it.
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    $943.20 between the two ChipIns which is a decent way to $5,000 (bond).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Not to mention that what you just mentioned is literally impossible. In the history of man, there has always been a demand for substances to abuse. And where there is demand, that is supply. Also, for the vast majority of human history, man could smoke a plant in peace. Only recently has it been determined that smoking a plant is cause for getting thrown in a rape cage.
    The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?

    And no, I don't want to pay for imprisoning those who smoke plants. My property taxes are too high already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    This is easy enough to solve, though.

    People critical of the guy's actions should probably just not donate, and reflect on how a few people have a huge axe to grind on this issue one way or another.

    People who think this guy is utterly awesome should pony up some money. I see a whole lot of supporters in this thread, but he's only at $600? Instead of arguing, you could promote this cause and spread the word, and put your money into it.

    For the record, I don't think he's awesome. I think he got pushed too far. That doesn't make anyone awesome. It makes them pushed too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qh4dotcom View Post
    The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?
    Heh, there's actually something I read about once called the Stoned Ape Theory that suggests that drug use (magic mushrooms etc) was the main reason for unusual brain development in early humans/hominids. Can't say if it's a good theory or not, but your post made me think of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaWV View Post
    This is easy enough to solve, though.

    People critical of the guy's actions should probably just not donate, and reflect on how a few people have a huge axe to grind on this issue one way or another.

    People who think this guy is utterly awesome should pony up some money. I see a whole lot of supporters in this thread, but he's only at $600? Instead of arguing, you could promote this cause and spread the word, and put your money into it.
    I am getting two cheques this week. Current cash went to rent and bills. I would want the same done for me. Paying forward is what the term is I believe. Not that i own a tractor or anything..

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    Quote Originally Posted by qh4dotcom View Post
    The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?

    And no, I don't want to pay for imprisoning those who smoke plants. My property taxes are too high already.
    So..stop the law. The only way to do that is ignore it. If they press it then they should pay. This has gone on too long and is a deadly game. My cockatoo likes hemp. Wanna jail her too?? This is frikkin' ridiculous. You don't want liberty..you want to protect your bank account... "no more bailouts"..and keep the borg consensus machine manufacturing links to the chains you want us to wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expatriate View Post
    Heh, there's actually something I read about once called the Stoned Ape Theory that suggests that drug use (magic mushrooms etc) was the main reason for unusual brain development in early humans/hominids. Can't say if it's a good theory or not, but your post made me think of it.
    An analog of THC created by a University of Calgary team was fed to rats and slices of their brain analyzed. They found that it was growing new dendrite trees rapidly. So it is literally mind expanding as it creates a larger and more detailed neural net of dendrite trees for processing sensual and thought data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolution9 View Post
    You have admitted never smoking it so you have no stance to make a correct judgement.
    That's a red herring. Never once did I say smoking pot was wrong. I said it was illegal.

    I could care less if the guy smoked pot. Good on him if he did. That's not the issue. The issue is he got caught doing something that is currently illegal (we don't like income taxes either, but we still have to pay them), and then he took inappropriate measures as revenge on those who were enforcing the law.

    I know we have some anarchist here, but this country does have laws, and there is a process of repealing them. Running over squad cars in a tractor is not that process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    No way. I sympathize for his marijuana arrest, but now the taxpayers are going to have to pay for 7 new police cruisers. Face it, he's an idiot. I'd rather give my money to liberty candidates or starving children.
    There is that, but at the same time, I don't blame him. Action needs to be taken. It's the government's fault that all this money is being stolen from us to pay for these things. It's a drop in the bucket compared to the debt many PDs have already racked up. How long has Detroit been renting its police cars now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 View Post
    I'm not crazy. I'm just sick of "bullshit." Most people I know are sick of this same bullshit. It would be nice for the 75% of people who are sick of bullshit to stand up and say they're sick of bullshit. Now we have a guy who made that statement VERY clearly. Some of us can show some support, and some other people can keep pretending that it's ok if cops arrest a lot of people with bullshit charges about bullshit issues, but lay low and be happy it wasn't them.

    If you let people tell you the RP people are "crazy," you're bowing down to the 10% politically active people, and ignoring the 50% who care... but those 50% decided it's useless and there's nothing they can do. Therefore, they don't vote, they don't get politically active in any way, and they just hide from the state and hope they aren't the next target. This could be their chance to throw a few measly dollars at something they believe in.


    AND YOU TELL ME....

    Why does he not deserve to be out on bond?

    Why does he not deserve our support for standing up to oppressive government bullshit?

    Do you think those police cars are used to run around the county being friendly to people?

    I have a hard time finding anyone who tells me that their police interaction is friendly. If you think this forum is going to attract republicans and democrats who love law enforcement, but find this thread distasteful.... where are they? They've had more than 4 years to show up. Outside of friends in LE, I can't find anyone who supports the current state of LE, and even the ones I know don't. They just want to keep their pathetic jobs.
    Funny that you should mention friendly encounters with the police. I just learned that the PDs in my area are having police night out, where police and mundanes hang out to better get to know the people whom protect and serve them, or at least that's what the advert says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Considering that the tax payers are the ones responsible for his arrest for a victimless crime to begin with... I have zero sympathy for them
    How are they responsible? Did they institute a federal ban on marijuana or make it illegal to resist arrest? I didn't think so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    How are they responsible? Did they institute a federal ban on marijuana or make it illegal to resist arrest? I didn't think so..
    Actually, they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qh4dotcom View Post
    The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?


    I'm guessing they first ingested cannabis and mushrooms, then became enlightened enough to cause and control fires, then they put them in the fire in their cave and smoked them via hotbox.
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    Anyone know what happened today? Didn;t he have a hearing of some sort on the original charge?

    There is also an (unconfirmed to me) address for his legal defense as well - to the law office. It still makes more sense to market by paypal/chipin and then send the money there if that is legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 View Post
    Anyone know what happened today? Didn;t he have a hearing of some sort on the original charge?
    Was supposed to,, last I checked,,no news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneEnochs View Post
    I know we have some anarchist here, but this country does have laws, and there is a process of repealing them. Running over squad cars in a tractor is not that process.
    No, I'm fairly sure that is the process of repealing laws.
    The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    No, I'm fairly sure that is the process of repealing laws.
    Nullification in it's simplest form.
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    The warnings were simply ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Nullification in it's simplest form.
    Can you cite examples of it's effectiveness.. (not single case,,but overturned law) ??

    Opps,, misread ..
    Jury Nullification should be the way bad law is addressed,, but the court system/Police industrial complex makes that unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Can you cite examples of it's effectiveness.. (not single case,,but overturned law) ??
    the stamp tax, for one, more info http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGRW5...feature=relmfu
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    Jury Nullification should be the way bad law is addressed,, but the court system/Police industrial complex makes that unlikely.
    If we somehow got a sympathetic fully informed juror on Roger Pion's jury... that would be GLORIOUS.
    The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Can you cite examples of it's effectiveness.. (not single case,,but overturned law) ??

    Opps,, misread ..
    Jury Nullification should be the way bad law is addressed,, but the court system/Police industrial complex makes that unlikely.
    Until more people are informed and willing to use this tool to undermine and defeat the state.
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    They are there to eat doughnuts and fuck people up and throw them in jail... and they're all out of doughnuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, they did.

    The warnings were simply ignored.

    They were warned by men called the Anti Federalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    If we somehow got a sympathetic fully informed juror on Roger Pion's jury... that would be GLORIOUS.
    I agree 100%
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    They are there to eat doughnuts and fuck people up and throw them in jail... and they're all out of doughnuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, they did.

    The warnings were simply ignored.

    They were warned by men called the Anti Federalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    If we somehow got a sympathetic fully informed juror on Roger Pion's jury... that would be GLORIOUS.

    I've seen people flyer courthouse parking lots before. I hope Pion's lawyers didn't do anything stupid in court today.

    In a county of 28k, if this attracted the attention we'd like to see it attract, it would be awesome to see a whole county get flyered.
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    They say he was pushed to his breaking point after police hounded him for years.
    Huh.

    "He can't even leave his property without them being on him, ticketing him," Thompson said. "I happen to know they stopped him the night before and that morning about his dog in his front seat. I'm not really sure when the sheriffs' became dog wardens."
    We tried to get the sheriff's department on the phone Tuesday to respond to the harassment allegations. They were unavailable for comment. On Friday, Sheriff Kirk Martin would not say whether Pion was out for revenge.
    Thanks for the link 1stAmendguy
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    They are there to eat doughnuts and fuck people up and throw them in jail... and they're all out of doughnuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, they did.

    The warnings were simply ignored.

    They were warned by men called the Anti Federalists.

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    I'm not really sure when the sheriffs' became dog wardens.
    ha. anti-fed might have a timeline. I think they just execute now.


    Funny thing... I had a cop wake me up at my door yesterday. I thought I was already getting some wrong-headed karma blowback and thinking what the fuck. lol. I only answered the door because my little girl was waving to him though the window already. I already told the dog to shut up minutes earlier because I looked at my outdoor cameras and saw the cop talking to a neighbor. He was a nice guy... I even swatted a mosquito within 4 feet of him and he didn't kill me over it.

    I thought maybe he really wanted to talk to the neighbor at first. He didn't. He just used the neighbor as intel before talking to me. I'm not a big fan of the "no snitching" shit, but if anyone asks me about my neighbors, I'd say "I dunno... maybe you should ask them." I also had "code enforcement" try to turn my dogsitter into a snitch/snoop in the last month.

    My real issue: Dealing with some crooked ass realtors, and a bank who put my property on an "abandoned property list" as a malicious act. The bank can pay them $100 per year. I need to make several thousands of dollars of property improvement. And, I'm still on the "abandoned property list" despite that I've sent several certified letters and spoken in person with code enforcement telling them otherwise.

    Meh. Rant over. Police said they were looking for someone squatting in houses in the area. We'll see if that's true or not based on visit frequency.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    I just created a "Free Roger Pion" page on Quickmeme. Check out one I just made > http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qe4mp/

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    My real issue: Dealing with some crooked ass realtors, and a bank who put my property on an "abandoned property list" as a malicious act.
    Assholes are everywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    They are there to eat doughnuts and fuck people up and throw them in jail... and they're all out of doughnuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, they did.

    The warnings were simply ignored.

    They were warned by men called the Anti Federalists.

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