NY Times: In Tight Iowa Race, Romney Struggles to Excite G.O.P. Base

[parocks]

You have Goode to take votes from Romney. You have Johnson to take votes from Obama.

I would think that Johnson should be the West / Northeast candidate, Goode the South/Midwest candidate.

After Tampa, which will likely turn out not the way we like, I'm very curious to see what we do regarding those 2 candidates. We could make an impact if we all decided to support one of those candidates.

Democrats who care about civil liberties and legalize it, college students, could be persuaded to like Johnson, who does have a solid resume. Tea Party in the South and Midwest might like Goode.

I suspect that the tea party kinda will support Romney, but those college students who supported Obama in 08 are not there the way they were in 08. It just seems easier for Johnson to peel off I's and D's in their 20s and 30s who voted for Obama than Goode to peel off tea party (they hate Obama).

Johnson will say that Obama doesn't care about Freedom, and Goode can say Romney is not Conservative enough.

[sailingaway]

There is only "now", at any given moment. Tomorrow "takes care" of itself, when it gets here. We have to take care of now, for now.
I'm not interested in 2016, right now. I don't want to play into anyones "hand" and I don't want anyone to "play" into my hand. I want truth, honesty and love to be here with us and in us and from us, now.
I'm tired of games, this is no game, people are dying, suffering and hopeless because of corruption and deceit, let's end that now.
Romney can't excite the base? Good. Let's excite the base and more, Ron Paul 2012.

this for me, too. I don't stop running a race part way through.

[Agorism]

What??? Rand isn't a thing like Willard. Stop it.

He's trying to fool us into voting for Mitt.

[FSP-Rebel]

He's trying to fool us into voting for Mitt.

He's covering his ass in front of the right wing media. He's trying not to be a carbon copy of his dad in their eyes all the while using his record to prove to us that he's a chip off the old block. The few from the "Ron" camp that will bail because Rand doesn't massage their pure libertarian egos will be more than made up for when he's able to keep traditional republicans and Tea Party folk in his camp. If you can't have a level playing field in the conservative rich audiences of the radio mafia and Fox, you lose for the most part. However, being competitive in the free media realm and having more of your supporters involved in the party at all levels = best chance at winning.

[sailingaway]

Please have this argument in HT and not here, we've been through it a million times.

[jolynna]

It would be needed to make sure that people know that's the message that is being sent. Romney would not be worse than Obama. If what we're doing leads to an Obama victory, we really have to make a compelling case. There was no case made, strongly and clearly, that McCain lost because he was insufficiently Conservative. If we don't make the case that Romney lost because he was insufficiently Conservative, msm will try to argue some other point, provide some other cause for Romney's defeat - perhaps Romney was "too conservative". Hammer that Tea Party and Ron Paul supporters thought that Romney was too liberal.

NOBODY thinks Mitt Romney is too conservative.

And if Romney loses because there ARE ENOUGH tea party and Ron Paul people who don't appreciate that Romney is a "big government" liberal...GOOD. It is about time that the GOP realizes that being FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE means MORE than just "words". NOR do we want the United States descending to a police state (NDAA, CISPA, Patriot Act, Drones, Warrantless Wiretaps, Cyberprivacy INVASION & spying, gun confiscation)...Romney needs to get that ALL the FREEDOMS Americans have EVER lost are because of the programs HE LOVES and many of which he was part of starting (as head of the Governor's Homeland Security Council).

Just because we despite what Obama has done doesn't mean ANYBODY has to jump on board and be hunky-dory with the equally horrific thinks Romney is proposing.

In my opinion.

[Liberty74]

Yep, because even though Romney is no better than Obama, also Obama is no better than Romney.

Technically true, however we will be able to control Romney more keeping the "overton window" from pushing too far to the Left like what has happened in the last 4 years. We can't get those 4 years back. It's over. Once that window moves, it doesn't go back, hence we lose in the long run. The people lose. Our movement loses. We can kick and scream and maybe more people wake up but that window never moves Right.

Romney has a very good chance of winning. Why? He is the anti-Obama candidate the two party system has put up leaving many Republicans no real choice. People at work who don't really like Romney say, "We have to get Obama out of there." I try to explain that Romney is Obama which voting that way is a wasted vote. No one really agrees. Sad yes indeed.

The system always sticks the voters with the option of voting for the lesser of two evils. Evil is still evil and the elites, globalists and the system wins.

No I am not voting for Romney.

Edit: Well, maybe a Romney/Paul ticket could interest me to push the button. But I honestly think the deal struck between the two camps puts Ron Paul into some type of department like Treasury.

[wgadget]

Just an aside: Today in church the preacher ACTUALLY said that Christian dies NOT mean Republican. (Context was the ChikFilA fiasco of last week.) He then chided us to repent.

I agree.

This may be the start of waking people up to the truth about Romney in a backdoor way.

P.S. I attend a VERY CONSERVATIVE neoconish church in Georgia.

[ClydeCoulter]

Technically true, however we will be able to control Romney more keeping the "overton window" from pushing too far to the Left like what has happened in the last 4 years. We can't get those 4 years back. It's over. Once that window moves, it doesn't go back, hence we lose in the long run. The people lose. Our movement loses. We can kick and scream and maybe more people wake up but that window never moves Right.

Romney has a very good chance of winning. Why? He is the anti-Obama candidate the two party system has put up leaving many Republicans no real choice. People at work who don't really like Romney say, "We have to get Obama out of there." I try to explain that Romney is Obama which voting that way is a wasted vote. No one really agrees. Sad yes indeed.

The system always sticks the voters with the option of voting for the lesser of two evils. Evil is still evil and the elites, globalists and the system wins.

No I am not voting for Romney.

Edit: Well, maybe a Romney/Paul ticket could interest me to push the button. But I honestly think the deal struck between the two camps puts Ron Paul into some type of department like Treasury.

So, should we destroy ourselves, or the rest of the world, or both? I don't see an option here at all.

And while just maybe we can prevent the window from sliding left, it might shrink on the right. The noose has been tightening no matter who is in control, it just seems to tighten from a different side.