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    Ohh.

    Well lets signup for a lesbian retreat and if they don't let us in then we can start a class-action lawsuit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    I don't think it's the Christ part of Christianity that gay rights advocates hate. Jesus said lots of things about love but never said one word about homosexuality while he walked the earth as God Incarnate. (Not in any version of the Bible I've ever seen.)

    What they hate is people who spend millions of dollars collectively to try to write laws infringing on their freedoms, trying to force them to observe someone else's religion they don't believe in. (i.e. "Marriage is between a man and a woman because the Bible says so.")

    If this still doesn't make sense, consider how you would feel if Muslims were spending millions of dollars lobbying to write a law saying Christian marriages are invalid. If you got married in a Christian church, it is not valid, not legal, you are not married in the eyes of society or the government. Why? Well because the one, true, word of God, the Qu'Ran, says so. Only marriages under Islam are valid. It's God's word. (Yes, coincidentally, those Muslims think the same thing about their one and only true holy book that Christians think about theirs. It's the only true word of God.)

    So these Muslims are trying to make sure they protect Traditional Marriage, and they're going to change the law to make sure everybody is on the same page. It's for the good of society and the children.

    Now how would you feel about those Muslims? Would you think they are nice people? Would you think it was great they cared so much about your soul and society that they were working very hard to take away your freedom to define for yourself what marriage is? Would you think it was great they know better than you do what you should believe and how you should form your family?

    I don't agree with hate when it's just unfounded hate and prejudice. But you do have to understand, for a lot of people they have very good reason to not want to put up with Christians. Nobody is trying to tell Christians who they can and can't marry, or how they must define a word, or what they must believe. But many Christians are trying to write laws to do this to everyone else.

    I'm just trying to point out the other side of this. I believe in judging every individual based on their character and actions, and I try not to make assumptions about someone just because they Christian, gay, Liberal, or whatever. Those are labels, not people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ohh.

    Well lets signup for a lesbian retreat and if they don't let us in then we can start a class-action lawsuit.
    Actually I respect their right to discriminate, even though they try to fine and jail me for doing so. Its the proper example of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Handbag making schools?
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    Though I agree with the vandalizers point, I disagree with their means of conveying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhistlinDave View Post
    I don't think it's the Christ part of Christianity that gay rights advocates hate. Jesus said lots of things about love but never said one word about homosexuality while he walked the earth as God Incarnate. (Not in any version of the Bible I've ever seen.)

    What they hate is people who spend millions of dollars collectively to try to write laws infringing on their freedoms, trying to force them to observe someone else's religion they don't believe in. (i.e. "Marriage is between a man and a woman because the Bible says so.")

    If this still doesn't make sense, consider how you would feel if Muslims were spending millions of dollars lobbying to write a law saying Christian marriages are invalid. If you got married in a Christian church, it is not valid, not legal, you are not married in the eyes of society or the government. Why? Well because the one, true, word of God, the Qu'Ran, says so. Only marriages under Islam are valid. It's God's word. (Yes, coincidentally, those Muslims think the same thing about their one and only true holy book that Christians think about theirs. It's the only true word of God.) So these Muslims are trying to make sure they protect Traditional Marriage, and they're going to change the law to make sure everybody is on the same page. It's for the good of society and the children.

    Now how would you feel about those Muslims? Would you think they are nice people? Would you think it was great they cared so much about your soul and society that they were working very hard to take away your freedom to define for yourself what marriage is? Would you think it was great they know better than you do what you should believe and how you should form your family?

    I don't agree with hate when it's just unfounded hate and prejudice. But you do have to understand, for a lot of people they have very good reason to not want to put up with Christians. Nobody is trying to tell Christians who they can and can't marry, or how they must define a word, or what they must believe. But many Christians are trying to write laws to do this to everyone else.

    I'm just trying to point out the other side of this. I believe in judging every individual based on their character and actions, and I try not to make assumptions about someone just because they Christian, gay, Liberal, or whatever. Those are labels, not people.
    Christians who use government violence to "spread"(force) the word of God provided the very example that is now being used by the "oppressed minorities" to "spread" (force) the acceptability of certain life choices.

    Both of these groups are interested in power, not the end of discrimination. Homosexuals and Christians share similar vision: they are both seeking to remove the ability to discriminate from the other while retaining the exclusive right to wield it via government violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Specifically white denominated Christianity. Black congregations excluded of course. And don't forget Muslims as well. Sure, they may chop up the local homosexual and use his remains as fertilizer for their date garden, but you will never see this deluded movement utter a bad word at Mohammed for outlawing homosexuality. At their core, they are craven cowards, knowing full well that Christians aren't going to respond in kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Specifically white denominated Christianity. Black congregations excluded of course. And don't forget Muslims as well. Sure, they may chop up the local homosexual and use his remains as fertilizer for their date garden, but you will never see this deluded movement utter a bad word at Mohammed for outlawing homosexuality. At their core, they are craven cowards, knowing full well that Christians aren't going to respond in kind.
    but that is my point in my comment above. Rights don't depend on the content of your belief or opinion but on the fact that you are ENTITLED to your belief or opinion, whatever it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    but that is my point in my comment above. Rights don't depend on the content of your belief or opinion but on the fact that you are ENTITLED to your belief or opinion, whatever it is.
    I just wish they were ideologically consistent as opposed to selecting strategic targets of opportunity. I could respect that.
    I'm shocked that Chick-Fil-A, an evangelical christian owned corporation is under attack by these folks. (sarc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    Though I agree with the vandalizers point, I disagree with their means of conveying it.
    “we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.” - Dan Cathy
    I don't know that statement constitutes "hate".

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