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    Iceland Jails Bankers, Erases Citizensí Debt, Recovers Strongly

    For all of you who are pessimistic about the chances of real government reform, take a look at what the great citizens of Iceland have managed to accomplish.

    In Iceland, the people have made the government resign, the primary banks have been nationalized and it was decided not to pay the debt that these created with Great Britain and Holland due to their bad financial politics, and a public assembly has been created to rewrite the constitution.

    And all of this has been done in a peaceful way. A whole revolution against the powers that have created the current crisis.

    This is why there hasnít been any publicity during the last two years: What would happen if the rest of the EU citizens took this as an example? What would happen if the US citizens took this as an example?

    This is a summary of the facts:

    2008. The main bank of the country is nationalized. The Krona, the currency of Iceland devaluates and the stock market stops. The country is in bankruptcy

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    Iceland Forgives Mortgage Debt for the Population

    Posted by JacobSloan on July 19, 2012

    Seriously, the most advanced place on Earth. Bloomberg writes:

    Icelanders who pelted parliament with rocks in 2009 demanding their leaders and bankers answer for the countryís economic and financial collapse are reaping the benefits of their anger.

    Since the end of 2008, the islandís banks have forgiven loans equivalent to 13 percent of gross domestic product, easing the debt burdens of more than a quarter of the population.

    The islandís steps to resurrect itself since 2008, when its banks defaulted on $85 billion, are proving effective. Icelandís economy will this year outgrow the euro area and the developed world on average, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development estimates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    What did laws did the "bankers" in the U.S. break?
    US bankers were smart. they rewrote the law so they'd be safe.

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    I WOULD BUY ALL KINDS OF AWESOME STUFF AND GET MY HOME OFF THE GRID

    oh well, i live in the land of the "free"

    ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    What did laws did the "bankers" in the U.S. break?
    Stealing is stealing whether it is legal or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiso0770 View Post
    The utilization of "Watkinsian Socialism" is a classic American solution as it works along the principle of checks and balances. As it breeds to extinction both the evils of capitalist banking and social communism, it also kills two birds with one stone.

    Watkinsian Socialism -- Putting an end to capitalist banking and social communism by restricting the political spread of social communism to within the endeavor of capitalist banking solely. In this American solution, every employee in the banking industry, from top to bottom, should make the same exact wage with no bonuses, stock options, perks, or any benefits whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Stealing is stealing whether it is legal or not.
    Jesus blessed the law against His Will as the very institution of it had led to horrible persecution towards his mother as an adulterer. So, as us shallow Christians might view it, stealing was indeed blessed as something officially sanctioned by the Lord. This put the slaves, those who would become the future Christians, at a disadvantage to the Jews, those who established the ten commandments beforehand and those Jesus blessed by fulfilling the prophecies.
    He then turned his attention to the slaves with a secret giving to them "a New Covenant" of Love thy neighbor as thyself bettering the situation for them by narrowing the ten commandments to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Stealing is stealing whether it is legal or not.
    Well, we cannot jail generic bankers. We must preserve the rule of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Well, we cannot jail generic bankers. We must preserve the rule of law.
    And just why exactly do you consider yourself as a member of the people who is against tyranny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Emanuel Watkins View Post
    And just why exactly do you consider yourself as a member of the people who is against tyranny?
    Well, without the rule of law there is tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    I WOULD BUY ALL KINDS OF AWESOME STUFF AND GET MY HOME OFF THE GRID

    oh well, i live in the land of the "free"

    ha!
    When liberty becomes our quest, we fall short every time. As the law has led us to believing that we have to aim directly at the target, so we always miss the apple in the tree. However, when the goal we are aiming for is the blue sky of our Civil-Purpose, then emotional catch words like rights, liberty, and equality all become mere prerequisites.
    Why can't people understand this enough to quit wasting their time and energy?

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    theft = the "unlawful" taking

    legal taking is just as bad though
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Well, without the rule of law there is tyranny.
    We didn't seperate ourselves becoming a Democratic Republic by the utilization of legal precedence; but, to the contrary, our Founders utilized the scientific method of natural law overturning every persecuting legal precedent established in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwar View Post
    theft = the "unlawful" taking

    legal taking is just as bad though
    Not in the Jewish tradition. Look, the Jewish traditions were tribal. Why do we still incorporate the tradition of the Jewish Jubilee? Figure we aren't just beyond that as a nation! No! Even beyond that, we are supposed to be acting as a Democratic Republic of individual nation-states! The concept of a nation was created in ancient Greece in an attempt to help the disadvantaged people gain control over tyranny. Meanwhile, the concept of a tribe represents the old tyranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Well, without the rule of law there is tyranny.
    Lawbreaking terrorists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mmfmj View Post
    US bankers were smart. they rewrote the law so they'd be safe.
    But the bankers didn't write the lie that, while they are an integral part of the free enterprise system, they aren't part of the government. No, we are the ones who accept that fairy tale. Watkinsian Socialism! That is the American solution to this hideous problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    My whole point is, are you advocating arresting random bankers? What are you arresting them for?
    But why ask that question when you aren't even being represented by any commercial media? We have become sovietized. Therefore, first, picket the police to regain the ground to express your right to peacefully assemble. Second, then picket the commercial media to regain the ground to express your right to a free press.

    Then go fishing. Why waste time doing what isn't necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Emanuel Watkins View Post
    But why ask that question when you aren't even being represented by any commercial media? We have become sovietized. Therefore, first, picket the police to regain the ground to express your right to peacefully assemble. Second, then picket the commercial media to regain the ground to express your right to a free press.

    Then go fishing. Why waste time doing what isn't necessary?
    I have no clue what you are talking about.

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    Arrested the bankers and engineered a strong economic recovery? Sounds like someone's asking for a good old-fashioned carpet bombing.

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    This is exactly what we need to do.

    Debt Reset.

    STIFF THE FED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    This is exactly what we need to do.

    Debt Reset.

    STIFF THE FED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    This is exactly what we need to do.

    Debt Reset.

    STIFF THE FED.
    Ridiculous.

    You don't get a free lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    My whole point is, are you advocating arresting random bankers? What are you arresting them for?
    Are you under the impression they were arresting bank tellers or managers or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Ridiculous.

    You don't get a free lunch.
    Why do the bankers get millions of free lunches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why do the bankers get millions of free lunches?
    You cannot just put all bankers in one group.

    What about John Allison, the libertarian CEO of BB&T now in charge of CATO.

    His bank was FORCED by the government to take bailout money. They protested against it. Not all bankers are evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Well, without the rule of law there is tyranny.
    The law is tyranny in essence. Respect is freedom in essence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    You cannot just put all bankers in one group.

    What about John Allison, the libertarian CEO of BB&T now in charge of CATO.

    His bank was FORCED by the government to take bailout money. They protested against it. Not all bankers are evil.
    Ok, he doesn't go to jail.

    We are talking about doing investigations into execs of Goldman Sachs and different companies and finding corrupt ties to government institutions and prosecuting for specific actions, I believe.
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    Alright, let's come up with a game plan. At what level do we start prosecuting guys? Branch manager? Regional manager? I once had a teller look at me like a terrorist because I withdrew $4,000 at once. I want her to be tried as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneEnochs View Post
    Alright, let's come up with a game plan. At what level do we start prosecuting guys? Branch manager? Regional manager? I once had a teller look at me like a terrorist because I withdrew $4,000 at once. I want her to be tried as well.

    don't start from the bottom, start from the top.
    start at bernake and the governors of the federal reserve, start with the ceo's and board members of the banks who can be proven cronies of said governors.

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