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    Where are all the dead bodies from swine flu?

    Where are all the dead bodies from swine flu?


    CDC’s new estimates of half a million dead prove too comedic to ignore

    Mike Adams
    Natural News
    Thursday, June 28, 2012

    Until a couple of days ago, the CDC had claimed that the swine flu pandemic of 2009 killed roughly 18,500 people. That’s been the “official” number for the last three years. But suddenly, in a burst of revisionist inspiration, the CDC has retroactive altered medical history and announced that as many as half a million people may have died from swine flu after all! (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-l...r-million-liv…)

    And yet, somehow, we all missed those 500,000 dead bodies in 2009, which would have overflowed from the morgues, filled local gymnasiums and been found dropping dead across our streets. If 500,000+ people died from swine flu, modern cities would have been littered with dead bodies like something from a war scene. After all, the entire Vietnam War killed roughly 50,000 Americans, and the CDC is claiming swine flu killed ten times as many people.

    So where is the war zone? Where are all the bodies? I don’t recall any pictures in the news of bodies stacking up anywhere. No reports of morgues overflowing with dead people. No mass graves. No footage from the TV news showing the horrors of stacked body bags. None of that ever happened!

    Half a million people died but somehow nobody noticed

    Apparently the CDC’s position is that 500,000+ people died and somehow no one noticed, if you can believe that. Yep, while we were all watching Dancing With the Stars, hundreds of thousands of our brothers and sisters were dropping dead on the streets around the world, and then they somehow just vanished into thin air and haven’t been heard from since. (Insert Twilight Zone music here…)

    Thank goodness the CDC has finally found them all! Thanks to the agency’s “computer modeling” — a euphemism for the less technical term “making sh!t up” — all those 500,000+ deaths have finally been accounted for!


    But where are the bodies, then? Any cop knows that if you think you have a murder, you need a body. No body means no murder… probably just a missing person instead. So where are the CDC’s bodies?

    The only rational conclusion is that the CDC is hiding all the bodies! That’s why we haven’t seen them. Yes, they’ve dispatched teams of literal body snatchers to whisk away all the dead swine flu bodies before we would notice anything. Check the nursing homes… are your parents still there? Maybe they got snatched by the CDC and you just never noticed…

    Bodies for the zombie apocalypse?

    So somewhere deep in the CDC’s basement, alongside the thawed autism brains and level-4 bioweapons they’ve been feverishly working on releasing soon in a Chicago bus station, there’s a gruesome collection of hundreds of thousands of bodies of swine flu victims. You might wonder, then, for what purpose they are keeping a few hundred thousand bodies on ice.

    The answer should be obvious: The CDC is going to re-animate all those bodies and send them back onto the streets during the next zombie apocalypse that the CDC has already warned us about! (http://www.naturalnews.com/032454_zo...lypse_CDC.html)

    According to the CDC’s own words posted on May 16th, 2011 — and no, I’m seriously not making this up:

    Where do zombies come from and why do they love eating brains so much? …Zombies would take over entire countries, roaming city streets eating anything living that got in their way. The proliferation of this idea has led many people to wonder – How do I prepare for a zombie apocalypse? (http://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmat...dness-101-zom…)

    So now it’s all becoming clear. The CDC is hoarding swine flu bodies (which we somehow never noticed were missing), and it’s going to re-animate them using Frankenvaccines, then unleash them onto the streets of America as the much-anticipated zombie apocalypse.

    Ah, now it all makes sense. I’m glad there’s a rational explanation behind it all, because for a minute there I thought the CDC was just fabricating numbers out of thin air in order to push more vaccines.


    original article here:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/036317_CD...estimates.html
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    A couple of points. The information does not come from the Centers for Disease Control (it is a article in the UK publication, "The Lancet") and it is not an estimated total of US deaths but deaths worldwide. Proper link to original article (one in post above not working): http://ca.news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-l...232858163.html That is still a lot and probably includes people who died from any version of the flu.
    From the original article:

    The A(H1N1) "swine flu" 2009 pandemic probably claimed over a quarter of a million lives -- 15 times more than the 18,500 reported, a paper in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal said Tuesday.

    The elevated toll underlined the need for better planning and vaccine distribution, said a team of epidemiologists and physicians who made a statistical model based on population and infection estimates to present what they believe is a more accurate picture of the pandemic's reach.

    "This study is one of the first to provide a global estimate of deaths caused by the 2009 H1N1 virus," lead author Fatimah Dawood of the US government's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told AFP in an email exchange.

    "Unlike most other mortality estimates for the 2009 pandemic, this study includes estimated mortality for countries in southeast Asia and Africa where surveillance data on influenza-associated mortality are limited."
    Between 250,000 and 500,000 people die of seasonal influenza every year, according to the WHO.

    In the flu 2009 season, H1N1 was the "predominant virus", said Dawood.

    But comparing the numbers alone did not yield an accurate picture, she stressed, as 80 percent of swine flu victims were younger than 65, while the yearly seasonal flu mainly tends to claim older victims.

    The researchers said 51 percent of swine flu deaths was estimated to have occurred in southeast Asia and Africa, which account for 38 percent of the world's population.
    I would definately agree that the Swine Flu was very heavily over-hyped.

    In an average year, about 30,000 people in the United States die from flu related causes. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease...ted_deaths.htm
    The 36,000 estimate was presented in a 2003 study by CDC scientists published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), using similar statistical modeling techniques, but only refers to a period from 1990-91 through 1998-99. During those years, the number of estimated deaths ranged from 17,000 to 52,000, with an average of about 36,000. The JAMA study also looked at seasonal influenza-associated deaths over a 23 year period, from 1976-1977 and 1998-1999. During that period, estimates of respiratory and circulatory influenza-associated deaths ranged from about 5,000 to about 52,000, with an average of about 25,000.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-28-2012 at 11:26 PM.

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    It's almost time to push the flu vaccine again. Gotta sell that fear!

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    There was a lot of fearmongering on both sides of this one- the anti-vaccine folks saying that getting shots would kill everybody and the ant-flu folks saying H1N1 could kill everyone. Both were wrong. Natural News is a good source for fear.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-28-2012 at 10:29 PM.

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    Answer this one first, where are all the dead bodies from vaccines?

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    Well every year , about worldwide , in a "good " yr for 'flu", probably a quarter million die from Influenza of every type , probably , 1 million die ea yr from malaria . I do not understand it , children , old people , malnutrition , all that , understand , maybe.... but I have been close to death many times .... when young .... The killer flu in the 60's , the bad flu vaccine in the 70's , malaria , Dengue fever , pneumonia , brown recluse spiders , knife , shrapnel , firearm wounds etc ... By , about 1918 , that Flu killed probably , anywhere from 6 % to 20 % of the world population , it killed so many , nobody even knows .....

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    If , I had to guess , these , quarter million bodies are where they have always been , third world , type or tropic countries .... ??

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    "With swine flu fading in the UK (projected winter deaths of 65,000 have been downgraded to 1,000, and new cases are decreasing) the UK government has been left with millions of unused vaccines, and (unlike its contract with Baxter) no clear break-clause to get out of its contract with GlaxoSmithKlein. Although the amount paid for vaccines has not been disclosed, it likely cost the UK government several hundred million pounds. Other governments are also in a similar position: the US ordered 251 million doses of the vaccine, and France and Germany are aiming to cut back on their orders considerably. To say that the case for the pandemic has been over-estimated appears to be an understatement. Now, the WHO has announced that it is to investigate whether or not it bowed to pressure from drugs companies to overplay the threat."

    "The Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly has also announced an investigation into the matter after a resolution [pdf] from Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, Chairman of the Subcommittee on Health, was adopted. Dr. Wodarg labelled swine flu as a "false pandemic", and claims in the resolution that '"in order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies, and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently-tested vaccines."' By some estimates, GSK was expected to net over £1 billion from vaccine sales."

    Source:
    http://science.slashdot.org/story/10...vaccine-orders
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    Answer this one first, where are all the dead bodies from vaccines?
    Answer this one before that one.
    Why are cases of autism sky-rocketing with conclusive evidence that vaccines are partly responsible for this being ignored by the corporate media?

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    Answer this one first, where are all the dead bodies from vaccines?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Killed 500,000 people where? The entire world? Because that would be 0.000007% of the population. Hardly noticeable. That said this article is ridiculous and a decent example of why so many wont take the good articles on NN seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Answer this one before that one.
    Why are cases of autism sky-rocketing with conclusive evidence that vaccines are partly responsible for this being ignored by the corporate media?
    I do not admit autism is skyrocketing. Autism is being diagnosed more, as is ADHD, PTSD, OCD, so you expect to find more patients after you find a name to label them.

    There is not one single blind study that can even show correlation of autism to vaccination, Wakefield has been discredited and his claim was never reproduced even once. I am willing to grant causation if somebody can even show a good blind study of correlation , but pathetically, there isn't.

    You don't seem to accept any other claim based on one discredited and unreproduced study, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    That's not an answer, do you know how to read a question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxic27 View Post
    Killed 500,000 people where? The entire world? Because that would be 0.000007% of the population. Hardly noticeable. That said this article is ridiculous and a decent example of why so many wont take the good articles on NN seriously.
    Looks like we got a swine flu holocaust denier

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    That's not an answer, do you know how to read a question?
    Oh sure, but your questions are rather stupid to begin with. How are we to know the figures when government protects Big pHARMa?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Oh sure, but your questions are rather stupid to begin with. How are we to know the figures when government protects Big pHARMa?
    You could've just said that. So let me get this straight, you have people waiting in line to sue for autism causing, but none sue for wrongful death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxic27 View Post
    Killed 500,000 people where? The entire world? Because that would be 0.000007% of the population. Hardly noticeable. That said this article is ridiculous and a decent example of why so many wont take the good articles on NN seriously.
    Natural News in all their articles they always post hyperlinks to all the ridiculous claims.

    Swine flu likely claimed quarter of a million lives: study
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-l...232858163.html
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Natural News in all their articles they always post hyperlinks to all the ridiculous claims.

    Swine flu likely claimed quarter of a million lives: study
    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-l...232858163.html
    If they all died in Africa, what pics would you be looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    You could've just said that. So let me get this straight, you have people waiting in line to sue for autism causing, but none sue for wrongful death?
    2011
    Supreme Court: No, You Can’t Sue Drugmakers Over Vaccine Injury Claims
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...injury-claims/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    If they all died in Africa, what pics would you be looking for?
    Excerpt from the article you didn't read too well.

    Between 250,000 and 500,000 people die of seasonal influenza every year, according to the WHO.

    In the flu 2009 season, H1N1 was the "predominant virus", said Dawood.

    But comparing the numbers alone did not yield an accurate picture, she stressed, as 80 percent of swine flu victims were younger than 65, while the yearly seasonal flu mainly tends to claim older victims.

    The researchers said 51 percent of swine flu deaths was estimated to have occurred in southeast Asia and Africa, which account for 38 percent of the world's population.

    The team hoped the work would help improve planning and surveillance, as well as boost vaccine production and delivery, especially to Africa and southeast Asia, ahead of future pandemics.


    Dubbed swine flu, the virus affected some 214 countries and territories after it was uncovered in Mexico and the United States in April 2009.

    The WHO declared it a pandemic in June that year. It was declared over in August 2010.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Excerpt from the article you didn't read too well.
    Affected, I wonder where the remaining 49 percent deaths were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    2011
    Supreme Court: No, You Can’t Sue Drugmakers Over Vaccine Injury Claims
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...injury-claims/
    Wrongful death counts as injury? Ok, even if it does, no blogs or rumors of people speaking out? All gagged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    Affected, I wonder where the remaining 49 percent deaths were.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    Wrongful death counts as injury? Ok, even if it does, no blogs or rumors of people speaking out? All gagged?
    If you cannot sue Big pHARMa over vaccine injuries, what makes you think you can prove that a vaccine cause a death?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Excerpt from the article you didn't read too well.
    Don't forget this line too which I am glad you included:
    Between 250,000 and 500,000 people die of seasonal influenza every year, according to the WHO.
    The swine flu death totals world wide were average compared to the normal number of flu related deaths. No huge pandemic- just a typical flu season.

    But this should have told us the article was not serious:
    So somewhere deep in the CDC’s basement, alongside the thawed autism brains and level-4 bioweapons they’ve been feverishly working on releasing soon in a Chicago bus station, there’s a gruesome collection of hundreds of thousands of bodies of swine flu victims. You might wonder, then, for what purpose they are keeping a few hundred thousand bodies on ice.

    The answer should be obvious: The CDC is going to re-animate all those bodies and send them back onto the streets during the next zombie apocalypse that the CDC has already warned us about! (http://www.naturalnews.com/032454_zo...lypse_CDC.html)

    According to the CDC’s own words posted on May 16th, 2011 — and no, I’m seriously not making this up:

    Where do zombies come from and why do they love eating brains so much? …Zombies would take over entire countries, roaming city streets eating anything living that got in their way. The proliferation of this idea has led many people to wonder – How do I prepare for a zombie apocalypse? (http://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmat...dness-101-zom…)
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-29-2012 at 02:23 AM.

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    From those 250-500 K deaths 80% are probably in Africa and Southern Asia.In my country there was only 1 confirmed death from swine flu ( in a population of 2,3 million ) and he was already hospitalized before being infected with swine flu and had kidney failure.

    Even from all of those season flu deaths most of them are probably in the same place Africa and Southern Asia .
    Last edited by Demigod; 06-29-2012 at 02:06 AM.

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    Donnay smacking down the trolls once again. Love it
    I am the spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Don't forget this line too which I am glad you included:


    The swine flu death totals world wide were average compared to the normal number of flu related deaths. No huge pandemic- just a typical flu season.

    I know that, the hype was coming out of the WHO, if your remember correctly. Margaret Chan. Of course then the media ran with it.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberdom View Post
    Answer this one first, where are all the dead bodies from vaccines?
    Just curious- does anybody have any figures- even guestimates- of annual deaths due to vaccination?

    I don't buy into the fear some have of vaccines but do feel that the flu vaccine is for most people a waste. The formulation for this year's vaccine is based on what the most common variant of the flu was arround last year. If you were exposed (even if you did not get sick from it) you should have protection against it this year. If there is a new strain (which there usually is since most are now immune to the old one) then it is not going to be in the vaccine so no protection from that. It may help high risk people but the average person probably does not need it.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-29-2012 at 03:02 AM.

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