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    Exclamation Inside the mind of a SWAT cop

    TL;DR version:

    1 - Don't be poor, then you won't get SWATted.

    2 - We are like the military and will burn you to the ground if we want to, in order to "win".

    And I suppose, in the mind of this asshat, we're just supposed to "suck up" all the times him and his $#@! buddies raid the wrong house and get someone killed.


    Defending Against SWAT Entries (Not What You Think)

    http://www.warriortalknews.com/2012/...ink-it-is.html

    Indiana is the first U.S. state to specifically allow force against officers, according to the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys in Washington, which represents and supports prosecutors. The National Rifle Association pushed for the law, saying an unfavorable court decision made the need clear and that it would allow homeowners to defend themselves during a violent, unjustified attack. Police lobbied against it.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz1xZaAS2nC

    Defending Against SWAT Entries (Not What You Think It Is)

    The above bit of information hit Warrior Talk last week. Since then the moderators have been busy. The discussion of the law in Indiana, as expected, brought out all the emotional responses that one would expect. The usual 1776 Types with their F*** The Police attitudes (no different than a group of Black Panthers) come out of the woodwork waving their rifles in one hand and the Constitution in the other, and the seemingly fewer "Police Are Always Right No Matter What" types come out and argue their points. And then...there are those of us that have learned that such division is stupid, and arguing to either side, pointless.

    First the law that says its OK to defend yourself against unjustified police violence. OK...so what. If you are becoming the victim of a crime and the bad guy happens to be wearing a uniform, of course you defend yourself. I am not saying anything against that. But understand...in the end, the drug dealer, armed robber, or kidnapper will not be able to make such claims. If you are a thug in need of SWATTING, the Indy law willnot save you.

    Second, police response to the law in question. A SWAT team is like a military unit. You can moan all you want about the militarization of the police and all of that but your tears will not change a thing. Get used to that theme, BTW. When I was on SWAT our view is that "We will always win....even if we have to burn down your entire house by bombing it....we will win". Period.

    I can see Mr. Bubba Bumpfire now, beating his chest and grabbing his Tapcoe'd SKS, and snarling that he has rights and no SWATdogs are gonna take him down. Good luck Bubba....Indy law or no Indy law...with that attitude I see you on the deck hog tied...or with a chest full of bullets. Your choice.

    Not fair? Get over fair...I deal in reality friend. The reality is that you and your M4 or Custom AK are no match for ten trained guys, working in unison, and coming at a time of their choosing, to take you down. Notice that I have not even gotten into the "right or wrong" discussion. Why not? Because it is not relevant.

    So what does that mean to you and me?

    1). Don't live in an area where zero'dark thirty SWAT entries are common. Simple. If economic events require you to live there, work as much as you can (you can get by on 4 hours of sleep) and make enough money that you can go live in a normal neighborhood where the Ghetto bird and sirens are a rare event not an hourly thing.

    I can hear it now, "Ohhhhh....Gabe is a racist". Whatever. I am past caring what irrelevant people call me. Me....I call myself a realist. Argue with me successfully about how many SWAT entries per capita there are in Bel Air as opposed to Nickerson Gardens.

    Don't want to have negative contacts with the cops, don't live in the war zones of America.

    (The war zones you and your pals helped create, you $#@!. - AF)

    So simple a caveman could figure it out.

    2). To facilitate #1, make as much money as you can. Yes...strive. Yes...focus on THIS world. Yes, go get a motherfreaking job! Work your ass off. Watch what happens then. When you get a good paying job, you don't have to live with rats. When you don't have to live with rats, you have a nice home in a nice 'hood. When you have a nice home in a nice 'hood, your wife will love you more, and you won't care about Indiana laws, or SWAT, or any of that Concord Bridge Tin Foliery.

    You will be too busy enjoying your life to care. Get the picture?

    Wait....what is that? "Oh but Gabe....the economy....." Let me interrupt you....BULL$#@!! You would be surprised how easy it is to make a living. First....Just show up. And if you have to work on Sunday and miss church, do it. God does not want you living on Ramen noodles. I met a guy recently that got a job inspecting mattresses for warranty work. It pays well and its a steady job. I asked him how he got into that line of work. He said he lost his original job so he went out and got another one. It paid less, but it paid. It took him one week to get hired. I keep seeing the same theme.

    3). Finally and perhaps most importantly, don't be a criminal that gets you on the SWAT radar in the first place. And when you read some article about some poor dudley-do-right getting victimized by those "evil jackbooted thugs", read between the lines and then consider the source as well. Anyone from a war hero to a Pastor of a church can be involved in criminal actions that get them noticed by the right people....or the wrong people.

    Usually now we get the Waco story thrown in as "the example". Waco? OK...I'm tracking with you...that did not need to happen. But lets take it further...Koresh was just minding his own business when all of a sudden for no apparent reason the evil government woke up and decided to go kick his ass......

    Really? You really believe that?

    Even if Koresh did not warrant the response he got (which is probably a valid statement), he did plenty to get himself noticed by the wrong people. So.....DON'T GET NOTICED BY THE WRONG PEOPLE. That right there is, in fact, in your control.

    So there it is. The formula for defending against a SWAT entry into your crib at 0300 HRS.

    1.Get a job
    2.Make money
    3.Get a nice home where police activity is not needed
    4.Make more money
    5.Find a nice girl
    6.Marry her and have lots of cool kids that will also make money
    Or...one can sit around and watch their blood pressure rise because the wrong ghetto crib got hit by the cops and, "by golly", the possibility of SWAT coming and hitting theirs - right next to T-dog's Illicit Den of Recreational Pharmaceuticals, because they have no money, because they do not work, because they are too busy lining their walls with tin foil and going to militia meetings.

    Which life do you want?
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-22-2012 at 12:59 PM.



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    I would expect that a Mayor, living in Berwyn Heights, would have no problems then. After all, he followed or exceeded advise 1-6.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08073003299.ht

    The guy is full of $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The guy is full of $#@!.
    Very much so.

    Trouble is, he's full of $#@! and running his mouth with the following:

    1 - Tanks
    2 - Grenades
    3 - Automatic weapons
    4 - Unlimited backup
    5 - A tin badge.

    That's a recipe for disaster.

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    I have a family member who is in swat. He is very cold,calculating and always profiles cousins and strangers like a robot.I stay away from him because I can't stand him.

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    "Don't want to have negative contacts with the cops, don't live in the war zones of America."


    WHICH, by definition in the NDAA, *IS* America.

    so this guy wants to kill huh? "right or wrong" discussion. Why not? Because it is not relevant."

    this "person" is an animal and should be put down

    EVERYBODY
    right wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    I have a family member who is in swat. He is very cold,calculating and always profiles cousins and strangers like a robot.I stay away from him because I can't stand him.
    And, when the time comes, he will "follow orders".

    Even against family.

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    I'm getting heavily reinforced doors and windows as soon as possible.

    If they're attacking the poor for being poor now, and they've already started on the lower middle class--guess who's next?
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    I really wish I didn't read that. $#@! this guy and the rest of them, every single one.

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    That originated with Gabe Suarez, which is why the has the reputation he does among the military folks.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.

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    wth?
    the war on poverty continues
    cant we put this animal on top ramen?
    he has a bond right? can we get him fired be being a universal dumb ass?

    i cant believe we are FORCED to pay violent psychopaths too terrorize us!
    AND THEN HE GOES ON TO THANK HIS ROCK AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!
    the messiah did not advocate mindless violence against the poor and weak!
    SOMEONE NEEDS TO OPEN UP THAT BIBLE AND READ IT!!!
    he does not belong on the street
    period

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    I can hear it now, "Ohhhhh....Gabe is a racist". Whatever. I am past caring what irrelevant people call me. Me....I call myself a realist. Argue with me successfully about how many SWAT entries per capita there are in Bel Air as opposed to Nickerson Gardens.
    This goes to show the education level of our finest. What he really means by getting a job working 20 hours a day while he rapes tax payers for his overpaid "job" is that you need money to pay off lawyers because you cant do it if you don't make decent money. We all know those in Bel Air don't do or sell drugs. We all know those in Bel Air don't have cocaine fueled orgies. We all know that all those in Bel Air don't do anything illegal. We all know that all those in Bel Air legitimately acquired their fortunes. Either you pay off a decent lawyer/judge or he is going to murder you.
    Last edited by AGRP; 06-22-2012 at 01:50 PM.
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    Mind~~~~~~~~Swat Cop ?

    I don't get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    That originated with Gabe Suarez, which is why the has the reputation he does among the military folks.
    Is he a "known quantity"?

    I've never heard of him before.

    What can you tell us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And, when the time comes, he will "follow orders".

    Even against family.
    Probably,and I don't trust him one bit.

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    I tried reading the entirety of this article. I really couldn't. Perhaps this is why 99% of my encounters with police have been negative. I never realized that I live in a "warzone." FTP... and anyone who thinks like them. On a side note, WB AF.
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    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGRP View Post
    This goes to show the education level of our finest. What he really means by getting a job working 20 hours a day while he rapes tax payers for his overpaid "job" is that you need money to pay off lawyers because you cant do it if you don't make decent money. We all know those in Bel Air don't do or sell drugs. We all know those in Bel Air don't have cocaine fueled orgies. We all know that all those in Bel Air don't do anything illegal. We all know that all those in Bel Air legitimately acquired their fortunes. Either you pay off a decent lawyer/judge or he is going to murder you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Is he a "known quantity"?

    I've never heard of him before.

    What can you tell us?
    A quick search reveals he is a controversial character. Apparently he makes a living out of talking tough.

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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
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    The man loves Jesus Christ,

    This was said by him.

    And any gun guru out there that wants to test himself against our "games", I can arrange a plane ride to a remote place in Colombia where we can play it for real with whatever guns he wants to use. We will only need one ticket back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickZ06 View Post
    The man loves Jesus Christ,
    So much that he would have "helped" him on the cross. According to him, Jesus deserved it because he was homeless.

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    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Article
    Indiana is the first U.S. state to specifically allow force against officers, according to the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys in Washington, which represents and supports prosecutors.
    Before that, I believe Indiana had the first supreme court to say people had no right to resist illegal law enforcement, no? The Indiana SC way overstepped their bounds, interpreted the law incorrectly, and the legislature corrected them. That's how it's supposed to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 View Post
    Before that, I believe Indiana had the first supreme court to say people had no right to resist illegal law enforcement, no? The Indiana SC way overstepped their bounds, interpreted the law incorrectly, and the legislature corrected them. That's how it's supposed to work.
    The very logical argument for this law was this:

    Supposing you came home and found a cop raping your wife?

    Under the IN SC ruling, you had no legal recourse whatsoever to use any type of force to stop him.

    The only thing you could do, legally, is watch and wait until he was done, assuming he didn't kill both of you, and file suit after the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A quick search reveals he is a controversial character. Apparently he makes a living out of talking tough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Actually, I hate that stupid cop bowl haircut they all wear, but, that's me.
    I rest my case.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The very logical argument for this law was this:

    Supposing you came home and found a cop raping your wife?

    Under the IN SC ruling, you had no legal recourse whatsoever to use any type of force to stop him.

    The only thing you could do, legally, is watch and wait until he was done, assuming he didn't kill both of you, and file suit after the fact.
    Same argument the legislature made, I believe. (or those pushing the bill) But the article has it backwards as far as legal precedent. It was the IN SC who was making legal precedent, not the legislature. The legislature was only restating prior intent, which was not in agreement with the IN SC ruling.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Is he a "known quantity"?

    I've never heard of him before.

    What can you tell us?
    My personal opinion is that he is a self promoting ass hat SWAT ninja.

    He teaches "combat tactics" and such which is all SWAT raid school for police and SWAT wannabes. No evidence of team training, and we have to undo the individualism we get from the non prior service guys who go to these things thinking they will get something high speed low drag SEAL stuff. War is a team sport.

    He "recommends" certain brands of gear and products, that seem to have a financial incentive for him to push. When people with real world experience report that the crap he pushed doesn't work, he disses any contrary feedback as the rant of stupid idiots. GIs have a real interest in stuff that actually works, and useful information does not come from this source.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I rest my case.
    HAHA, yes the horseshoe haircut worn by military and LEO's is dumb. The irony is, he probably thinks long hair or a mohawks are dumb, but if he only realized.
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  32. #28
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    He has been programmed, very well by the way. His words are words to live by. In totalitarian states, that is what one must do to survive. It is what the mundanes wanted it is what the mundanes receive. They wanted to exploit their fellow American, they will reap what they sow. Happened to others in great states and nations, even happened to the children of Israel. Need to walk the line between survival and the remnant.

  33. #29
    I think the important thing to take away from this is:

    Do Not Call Cops.

    Even the cops are telling you do not have anything to do with cops.

  34. #30
    Bump for that family in Evansville IN.

    Foolish Mundanes, all you needed to do is get a better job and move.

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