I haven't had single donation to my chipin since this thread started. This thread hurts the campaign. It creates fear where none in needed. LET THIS THREAD DIE! Nothing is going to happen to foreigners or US citizens who give or take a little money here and there, moreover, it is not clear if it is really illegal. So chipin away!
One quick one while on top.Originally Posted by Peterjar
It is clear that The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA)
prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds
in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States,
either directly or indirectly.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml
My Church however, is only accepting donations
Foreign Nationals CAN contribute any amount to our Church.
Now, I'm not saying that it would be a big deal to contribute to your chipin,
but, maybe why you haven't gotten any chipins, is because no one can find it.
Where's the link? What chipin is it?
Last edited by Mark; 12-08-2007 at 09:45 AM.
Admin: PLEASE delete this thread. It's BS.
Anarchy, in my view, is synonymous with freedom.
http://www.simplyanarchy.com/
http://www.marketanarchy.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
Yeah, deleting this would be great! Only a word to the wise.
My Church can't even solicit Foreign Nationals
for "Electoral Education Projects."
We're just asking Foreign Nationals for regular donations.
Not for the "Electoral Education Project".
BTW.. this is not BS, it's CYA.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml
The Prohibition
The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from
contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any
federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly.
It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit,
receive or accept contributions or donations from them.
Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.
.
Last edited by Mark; 12-08-2007 at 09:53 AM.
The more I read, the more I get confused.
http://www.fec.gov/law/feca/feca.shtml
Statutes
Federal Campaign Finance Laws [PDF]
A compilation of the laws governing the financing of federal elections, including provisions administered by other government agencies. Those provisions include:Please contact the agencies listed above for additional information on the laws they administer.
- Sections of the tax code administered by the Internal Revenue Service that govern tax-exempt 501(c) groups and so-called 527 organizations (additional provisions of 26 U.S.C. also apply);
- Laws administered by the Federal Communications Commission that govern broadcast communications; and
- Criminal provisions administered by the Department of Justice that relate to elections and political activity.
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Maybe it just applies to 501(c)3's.
The State can't tell a non 501(c)3 what to do,
separation of Church and State.
It seems the prohibitions are for Federally Recognized Orgs
that get tax exemptions.
There's a number to call for questions. I think I will next biz day.
This thread is WAY too confusing by now.
Delete and start anew? Everyone's "on their own"?
Whatever. It's everyones own A in the CYA. You know how that goes.
Last edited by Mark; 12-08-2007 at 10:06 AM.
Here's the loophole if you're a foreigner that wants to donate...go to Ebay search for "Ron Paul" and there should be some sellers there selling Ron Paul stuff who claim that they will donate all proceeds to Ron Paul campaign...not only do you get to donate to the campaign but you get some cool merchandise in your mailbox like I have.
There are also plenty of Ron Paul websites out there selling Ron Paul stuff, not just Ebay.
It's Still Illegal
Calling this a loophole is like calling a ski mask is a loophole to bank robbing laws. Even though you are just less likely to get caught, it's still illegal.
Foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing in any way and nationals are prohibited from acting as conduits. Here's a good link for the regs: http://www.campaignfinanceguide.org/f-forgnnatl.html.
If foreign nationals want so support a cause of freedom, check out the Republic of Lakotah.
Yours in Liberty,
Jerry Collette
Charity Legal Aid
http://www.charitylegal.org
Serving the Greater Good
Why is buying someone's Ron Paul stuff on Ebay illegal? Is a foreigner supposed to question a US Ebay seller every time the foreigner buys something on Ebay if the money being given to the seller will be donated to Hillary, McCain, etc.? And does that mean that these Ebay Ron Paul sellers should refuse to sell to foreigners and refund their money if by any chance a foreigner buys from them?
Last edited by qh4dotcom; 02-23-2008 at 12:36 PM.
It's not the buying of RP things, it's the part where the seller explicitly states that the money will be going to the Campaign.
It would be different if the seller said, I donated my rent money to RP, and now I need to sell this item for rent money.
Last edited by Mark; 02-24-2008 at 07:51 AM.
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