Rand Paul files End the TSA bill and Passenger Bill of Rights bill

[tod evans]

Repeal laws.............Don't write more!

[NoOneButPaul]

I'm with Becky on this one.

He's On a Losing Streak

Yea that's kind of a stupid point... anyone who knows anything about the school of thought that Rand comes from knows that whenever he and Ron talk about abolishing something they are almost ALWAYS talking about privatizing it into the private sector so public tax dollars do not have to fund it.

There are some exceptions, but even all the departments Ron was talking about getting rid of would have had parts absorbed into others...

The Rand haters are really grasping for straws here... if there's any criticism to be made it's that the timing of this seems political.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Yea that's kind of a stupid point... anyone who knows anything about the school of thought that Rand comes from knows that whenever he and Ron talk about abolishing something they are almost ALWAYS talking about privatizing it into the private sector so public tax dollars do not have to fund it.

There are some exceptions, but even all the departments Ron was talking about getting rid of would have had parts absorbed into others...

The Rand haters are really grasping for straws here... if there's any criticism to be made it's that the timing of this seems political.

There's privatizing, as in abolishing government involvement in the matter and leaving it to the market, and then there's "privatizing," which still leaves the government as the final arbiter. Worse, the government itself picks the companies that perform the services. Rand's is the latter.

[jj-]

Yea that's kind of a stupid point... anyone who knows anything about the school of thought that Rand comes from knows that whenever he and Ron talk about abolishing something they are almost ALWAYS talking about privatizing it into the private sector so public tax dollars do not have to fund it.

Having security agencies in private hands is fine. Subjecting them to having to get permits from the Department of Homeland Security is not. That's formal private ownership but government control. That's fascism.

[NoOneButPaul]

I'm sure Rand is looking at the long term here... eventually the DHS would be abolished as well... it's all about building blocks.

You guys CANNOT expect the world to change in your favor over night when the world has completely flipped on itself.

You're asking for a .180 in less than 5 years... that's simply NOT going to happen.

[tod evans]

You're asking for a .180 in less than 5 years...

Off topic........Alt 167 will put the degree symbol on screen....[45º]

( The only 'puter trick I know )

[Feeding the Abscess]

I'm sure Rand is looking at the long term here... eventually the DHS would be abolished as well... it's all about building blocks.

You guys CANNOT expect the world to change in your favor over night when the world has completely flipped on itself.

You're asking for a .180 in less than 5 years... that's simply NOT going to happen.

This isn't even a move in the right direction. Now, not only is big government calling the shots, it invited its friend, big business, to get in on the take.

What we need is real privatization of security, but not phony privatization with the same TSA screeners in private security firm uniforms still operating under the "guidance" of the federal government. Real security will be achieved when the airlines are once again in charge of protecting their property and their passengers.

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?opti...1884&Itemid=69

[tsai3904]

Has anyone read the bill?

[tsai3904]

This is from Rand's budget:

Policy Proposal:

Privatize the Transportation Security Administration

Following the 9/11 attacks, the Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) has provided the majority of airport security screeners across the country. A number of airports however, (16 in a recent count) have replaced TSA screeners with private contractors. Kansas City International Airport was the first airport to use private screeners as opposed to the TSA. Kansas City Airport director Mark VanLoh said in an NPR article, “contract employees – are not federal employees; they’re not guaranteed a job for life. If they don’t meet performance goals, or maybe they’re consistently rude, or maybe they miss objects that go through the machine, they are terminated.”

Concerning the use of private screeners, GAO has stated, “The private screening under federal supervision works and performs statistically significantly better, so our main purpose here is in getting better screening and better performance, not to mention that we can get better cost for the taxpayer.” A House Transportation Committee report found that private screeners were 65 percent more productive compared with their TSA counterparts, and that the government might save as much as $1 billion over five years in using private screeners in the country’s 35 largest airports.

In addition, there are consistent reports of American citizens being abused by TSA agents. In April 2011 an 8-year-old boy was traveling with his family to Disneyland and was subjected to a full-body, invasive pat-down at a Portland,OR airport. Selena and Todd Drexel, from Kentucky were traveling with their three children, when the youngest, Anna was selected for a full body pat-down. Mrs. Drexel, Anna’s mother, requested that Anna be allowed to go back through the scanner and the agent refused to allow it. In the fall of 2011, two women in their 80s were traveling through New York’s Kennedy Airport and both were made to show screeners medical devices beneath their clothing,each were effectively strip-searched. Citizen’s constitutional rights are routinely violated and TSA remains unaccountable. Privatizing TSA begins the process to end these abuses

Let me remind everyone that the text of his bills have not yet been released. All we know about the bill in regards to the TSA is the one sentence the Politico reporter placed in his article.