Can someone please tell me if there is a money bomb being organized to support this legal effort? If there really is as much evidence as they claim, shouldn't this be a priority of the grassroots? Thanks in advance.
Can someone please tell me if there is a money bomb being organized to support this legal effort? If there really is as much evidence as they claim, shouldn't this be a priority of the grassroots? Thanks in advance.
The Lawyers for Ron Paul team are doing all this work pro-bono and are not asking for money. They do encourage everyone to donate to help delegates get to Tampa since all this legal work is being done to help them. To donate to help delegates go here: http://delegatesponsor.eventbrite.com/
For all the geeks out there:
http://www.fec.gov/law/feca/feca.pdf#page=139
word!
So you gave up on this:
Help with documenting voting rights violations and election fraud abuses!?
Shame. Nothing encourages crime than not punishing it. You are letting them get away with it.FAIL.
Check this out. If this is true, that's a lot of delegates. I wonder how many of them used to be Romney people.
"The Federal Delegates Case is up to about 450 delegate plaintiffs courageously challenging the old guard GOP on the federal statutes regarding the delegate's unbound status. The Liberty Movement is alive and well and we are still in it to win it!"
http://www.dailypaul.com/242936/hope...-450-delegates
Last edited by Sentinelrv; 07-03-2012 at 12:10 AM.
Before someone starts screaming they are lying scumbags, kill them etc:
Those delegates that they are talking about are not necessarily those who are elected to go to Tampa. Some of them were cheated of their spots etc. There is a good chance that some of them will be dismissed as plaintiffs but all this doesnt mean that lawsuit is wrong or it is failure.
DONT PANIC (someone will have a towel in that large group)
*People make assumptions and go on a tangent .
So you gave up on this:
Help with documenting voting rights violations and election fraud abuses!?
Shame. Nothing encourages crime than not punishing it. You are letting them get away with it.FAIL.
PACER has updated the case information. It now lists the attorneys for the defendants:
Charles H Bell
Bell McAndrews and Hiltachk
455 Capitol Mall, Ste 600
Sacramento, CA 95814
916-442-7757
Fax: 916-442-7759
Email: cbell@bmhlaw.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Brian T Hildreth
Bell McAndrews and Hiltachk LLP
455 Capitol Mall Suite 600
Sacramento, CA 95814
916-442-7757
Fax: 916-442-7759
Email: bhildreth@bmhlaw.com
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
They are listed as defense for all defendants. Also, a motion to Intervene has been filed by the Plaintiffs. Opposition to that motion has been filed by Defendants. Description of Motion to Intervene: http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossa.../intervene.htm
Also, Defendants have filed a Motion to Dismiss the case. That's going to be big. Hearing on Dismissal set for August 6 at 8:30am at the Reagan Courthouse in Santa Ana CA.
Points of defendant's motion to dismiss:
-Plaintiffs do not state a plausible claim for relief
-Plaintiffs do not allege the fraud with enough particularity - (Rule 9b) Fraud or Mistake; Conditions of Mind. In alleging fraud or mistake, a party must state with particularity the circumstances constituting fraud or mistake. Malice, intent, knowledge, and other conditions of a person's mind may be alleged generally.
-Suit should be dismissed because it's an internal party issue
- Plaintiffs are not entitled to be "unbound" and ignore results of primary elections
That's the GOP's basis for their motion to dismiss. Flimsy arguments but standard.
Last edited by devil21; 07-06-2012 at 02:46 PM.
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Why most RPF members are against the US involvement with Israel explained by Mini-Me:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=218093
No anti-semitism, just logic.
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Can you cut-n-paste or screen shot from pacer?
Thanks for the update!
Here's a bit about the attys for the defendants :
http://bmhlaw.com/practice-areas.php...atedlitigationOur experienced attorneys provide legal services to several Fortune 500 companies and national and state trade associations representing a broad cross-section of businesses and professions. In addition to our work on over 100 state and local initiative campaigns over the last two decades, Bell, McAndrews & Hiltachk, LLP has also represented three California Governors, several Constitutional officers, and Members of Congress. Our litigation practice is highlighted by an extensive appellate practice, including cases argued before the California Supreme Court by two of our partners.