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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivash View Post
    Well, I'm hoping on A. I was joking about B.
    Now, if the people at the festival were at the convention, that's a different story.

    Right now, Paul Festival looks meh. If I'm using meh right.

    I don't see too many people going to this because why. I was just looking at prices for 3 day music festivals. My local one, Kahbang, is really cheap. $40 if you buy the tix early. But other ones, ones that are better, are much more expensive. $300, $400 is not unheard of. The REO Speedwagon, Styx, Ted Nugent concert is $50-$100. The price of the Paul Festival is not bad at all. If they put on a good event that average people in Florida will want to see, they'll show up. I know Ron Paul supporters are often crazy, but people are planning on spending hundreds of dollars on gas to get there and back. Why is this again?
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    I'm going to try my hardest to make it to this.
    "Power tends to confuse itself with virtue...conferring upon it a special responsibility for other nations—to make them richer and happier and wiser, to remake them, that is, in its own shining image. Power confuses itself with virtue and tends also to take itself for omnipotence. Once imbued with the idea of a mission, a great nation easily assumes that it has the means as well as the duty to do God's work." - William Fulbright

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Not like we are the ones that have been breaking fingers, hips and punching people in the back of the head. Sheesh, AIN'T GONNA BE NO SNOWBALLS IN TAMPA!
    Not at the festival. There won't be anyone to throw snowballs at. But boy, Ron Paul delegates will be seeing up close and personal a lot of msm that they've hated for years. That's in Tampa, but not at the festival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seyferjm View Post
    I'm going to try my hardest to make it to this.
    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    why?
    I think we all know how you feel about the festival, as you've interjected negativity into every thread about it. But why on earth would you try to dissuade someone else from attending? You're becoming the King Nothing of festival threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    why?
    IDK, maybe because I'd have fun with friends and it's a bunch of Ron Paul people?
    "Power tends to confuse itself with virtue...conferring upon it a special responsibility for other nations—to make them richer and happier and wiser, to remake them, that is, in its own shining image. Power confuses itself with virtue and tends also to take itself for omnipotence. Once imbued with the idea of a mission, a great nation easily assumes that it has the means as well as the duty to do God's work." - William Fulbright

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    I think we all know how you feel about the festival, as you've interjected negativity into every thread about it. But why on earth would you try to dissuade someone else from attending? You're becoming the King Nothing of festival threads.
    He did the same thing back in December when some of us we're trying to promote the ITunes Bomb for the song "Bombs"(End This War) by Golden State who declared they would donate ALL proceeds to the RevolutionPac for Ron Paul. I think if you notice, he does some sort of band promotions and it must be a ego thing if he's not organizing it, then any other event is a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    I think we all know how you feel about the festival, as you've interjected negativity into every thread about it. But why on earth would you try to dissuade someone else from attending? You're becoming the King Nothing of festival threads.
    I wasn't asking you.

    Metallica reference.

    Listen, this Festival could in theory be any number of things. Asking someone why they're doing something is always a reasonable question.

    Remember, much of what the grassroots has done especially election cycle, has kinda sucked.

    Any given thing could be worse or better.

    You discuss these things in hope of getting the best outcome possible.

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    I fought to get (Ron Paul Song) or whatever it was back in the song title. It was the right thing to do. And that's what the argument was.

    Somebody on the Golden State team wanted everyone to buy the Golden State song - and it didn't have Ron Paul in the title at the time. I said "why do we do this - you need to have Ron Paul in the song title. If you're asking Ron Paul people to do something for you, you better be doing something for Ron Paul.

    Eventually, they did re-ad Ron Paul to the song title. This effort to get Golden State onto the charts failed.

    I posted many many suggestions about methods to get Golden State on the charts. I thought that all the bands with Ron Paul songs - Jordan Page, Aimee Allen, etc should coordinate their efforts. Hey, fans, buy these 3 songs on itunes. Nope - it's all about Golden State, and their song, which I promise will include Ron Paul in the title.
    I also posted that I thought that they should make it a 2 week long music bomb, but it should be coordinated for a specific time. Because itunes changes their charts all the time. They should've had as many of the sales at one time. Ron Paul Grassroots is fast moving, it it was said to buy 3 songs at 6pm on a Sunday, there would be a lot of sales in that period. And I think that if that had happened, at least one would've hit the charts.

    But it didn't happen like that.

    Yes, I do some sort of band promotions. What that means, is that I usually know right away if one of these music ideas will fail, and can tell you, pretty quickly, what the problem is. Because I do some sort of band promotions, and have been doing it a long time, and have been somewhat successful. Hype the best of the local music scene and make them famous, is the goal, I think, a lot of people work on these projects, it's helpful if good ideas beat out bad. If the bands do the right things instead of the wrong ones, etc etc. So, I've been working with these bands in one capacity or another, and a decent number of the people and bands that I've worked with, thought were good, tried to push forward, are famous now, in good bands or successful in the music industry outside of being a rock star. I'd say I was helpful to them. Unless it's just normal that many people you know, used to work with, or live with, or do the website for are pretty successful.


    Quote Originally Posted by RDM View Post
    He did the same thing back in December when some of us we're trying to promote the ITunes Bomb for the song "Bombs"(End This War) by Golden State who declared they would donate ALL proceeds to the RevolutionPac for Ron Paul. I think if you notice, he does some sort of band promotions and it must be a ego thing if he's not organizing it, then any other event is a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seyferjm View Post
    IDK, maybe because I'd have fun with friends and it's a bunch of Ron Paul people?
    A reasonable approach. How far would you be coming from?

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    I would go, just to meet everyone and be a part of celebrating Ron Paul's message after all the work. Hell, I had to drive over an hour one way just for mettings during the season.
    I'll have to see whether I can afford it (still have to pay IRS yet), but I'd love to be there. I would probably drive, I hate TSA and I have the wrong look about me, dark complected, mustache and ghotee, long hair in a pony tail, etc...so no planes for me.
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    Did not see a Security Team listed among the teams that are assigned at the Festival.

    I assume the Florida State Fairgrounds will provide security or am I missing something?

    Families that come with children definitely want to feel that there will be sufficient security.

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    If this event does become a big event, some consideration should be made to renting a bus or a number of buses, with scheduled routes. Perhaps this is something that could be handled by the Festival itself. They'll likely have the money to make that happen.

    Develop routes, sell tickets. I would've liked this Paul Festival during the convention, or I could see a bigger upside to it, but also more risk. You'd have thousands of people who could be moved to the convention, and the buses to move them.

    Overall, I think this is a waste of resources, unless I'm missing how exactly this helps the Tampa Delegates. I haven't heard much about

    Meghan McCain just said that based on all the people she talked to when touring America she's surprised Ron Paul is not the nominee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    I would've liked this Paul Festival during the convention, or I could see a bigger upside to it...

    Oh. My. God.

    I am NOT a "shout Fire! in a crowded theater" person. I DOWNGRADE my concern about Festival Mayhem.

    How could it have escaped my notice that the Festival is BEFORE the Convention?

    Oy vey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    If this event does become a big event, some consideration should be made to...

    STAYING LONGER...getting to knoooow you, getting to know alllll about youuuuu...



    ...and renting a bus or a number of buses, with scheduled routes...Develop routes, sell tickets...thousands of people who could be moved to the convention, and the buses to move them.
    End of an era . . . call in sick at work, double up in campsites, SHOCK & AWESOME.



    Meghan McCain just said that based on all the people she talked to when touring America she's surprised Ron Paul is not the nominee.
    Her father is a longtime Inner Circle senator, who is married to an Heiress (after ditching the wife and mother who endured his Prisoner Of War years).

    Meghan McCain is NOT surprised that Ron Paul will not be the nominee.
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    Myself and a few friends will be seeing you all there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    STAYING LONGER...getting to knoooow you, getting to know alllll about youuuuu...





    End of an era . . . call in sick at work, double up in campsites, SHOCK & AWESOME.





    Her father is a longtime Inner Circle senator, who is married to Big Money.

    Meghan McCain is NOT surprised that Ron Paul will not be the nominee.

    It's just doesn't make sense that they'd have it before. I'd take Orlando during before I'd take Tampa before. Especially if there are buses in Orlando. The point would be to stage bodies in Orlando, play music, probably liberty speakers. And somehow just celebrities hanging out. But, we have the bodies there to move to Tampa if need be. It serves as a place for people to be instead of Tampa. Because a bunch of people outside of the Convention with no clear purpose besides "I like Ron Paul" is not going to do us much good at all. If we in Orlando have a plan for outside the Convention, we can move to Tampa in the buses and implement that plan.

    It seems like the plan is to park people in Tampa for 3 days in a field, and then, right when the conventions about to start, it's over. And I'd really like to have a clear idea why this is a good idea. I'm not saying it's harmful. I'm saying - this is intended to be a big project - shouldn't a big Ron Paul related project be helpful in some way that can be explained. I'm not against fun, and having fun. I'm just wondering what the numerous concrete benefits are of this Paul Festival. It really isn't too much to ask.

    Well, she wasn't honestly surprised, she was just saying, telling a story, that she got people to tell her they liked Ron Paul, but not too many saying anything good about Romney or Obama, and, based on her personal, observations for the book she was selling.

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    I knew I would go from day one. For me it's seeing this "long strange trip" I've been on for the past 5 years come to fruition. It's about celebrating all we've accomplished and going forward. It's about an amazing man and his supporters who have inspired me and have kept me sane in all the insanity. It's about Rons Birthday and this brillant, humble man ending his career in congress. It's about connecting with old friends and making new ones. It's about celebrating who we are and where we came from. It's about having some fun.

    I'm glad it's Tampa for that's where all the energy will be. Not 80 miles away in Orlando. Many of us do not want to be there for the convention. We just wanted a family oriented, safe celebration of the man and his ideas. We would do what exactly at the convention? My delegates will represent me at the convention and that's good enough for me.
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    I love that you guys are doing this! I hope it draws a huge, huge crowd. Have fun, and celebrate all that you and Ron Paul have accomplished! You've earned it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    I'm not so sure about A. And B, well, what're we gonna do, fight with each other?
    Only if the topic of Rand comes up. lol


    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    I think we all know how you feel about the festival, as you've interjected negativity into every thread about it. But why on earth would you try to dissuade someone else from attending? You're becoming the King Nothing of festival threads.

    No kidding. If you don't want to go, parocks, don't go.


    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    Listen, this Festival could in theory be any number of things. Asking someone why they're doing something is always a reasonable question.

    Remember, much of what the grassroots has done especially election cycle, has kinda sucked.

    Any given thing could be worse or better.

    You discuss these things in hope of getting the best outcome possible.

    Paul has consistently pulled large crowds in the last 4-5 months for no other reason besides him being there. If he's a confirmed speech at the Paul Festival, the place will blow up big.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    This thread needs to be merged with the OTHER one, and promptly.

    There is more to this GATHERING than meets the eye, when it is re-introduced as a new thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    In the HOPE FOR THE BEST, PREPARE FOR THE WORST paradigm, the Republican National Convention in Tampa Florida in August 2012 is an engraved invitation to Trouble.

    In the same way some "Liberty Lovers" desire America's collapse, some of the Bad Guys desire CRACKDOWN.

    I am a techno-retard, but I will venture that merging the threads bumps the OTHER thread to the top.

    People are PLAYING WITH PEOPLE'S TANGIBLE PHYSICAL WELL-BEING instead of "just the usual" playing politics, if they would camouflage the oh-so-real ISSUES heralded by a specially and strictly legislated Clean Zone.

    Looky here, indeed.

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