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Thread: Amash channels Machiavelli

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    Default Amash channels Machiavelli

    I definitely agree with our man Justin on this one (from his Facebook page):

    My short time in Congress has convinced me of this simple truth—a truth I did not fully appreciate when I arrived: No amount of congeniality can change the system. A raw desire for power drives the Establishment. They respect you only when they fear you.







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    Just saw that, I'm sure he's right.
    Well, I got Rand started on his campaign (just search around here to see). I advised Thomas Massie before he ran for Congress. I am currently advising 2 liberty campaigns for the state legislature. I ran the war-room and won Minnesota for Ron Paul a few weeks back. There are other things I'm probably forgetting.
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    Me too. Was coming here to post it.

    Hugs, Justin.

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    If he were really going all Machiavelli, he wouldn't let anyone know that he feels this way.

    I think it's something that he should have probably kept to himself. I'm not sure what is gained by making this statement.

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    He is right.

    I keep that in mind when Ron says things like not wanting or dreaming about becoming president, etc. It's the reason he was able to spend so many years there in DC without becoming absorbed into the establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    If he were really going all Machiavelli, he wouldn't let anyone know that he feels this way.

    I think it's something that he should have probably kept to himself. I'm not sure what is gained by making this statement.
    What is gained? Other than the reaffirmation that this man is one of the greatest members of the legislative branches that we have? Here is the thing about Liberty candidates. Sometimes they say things not because they stand to gain from saying it, but because it needs to be said.

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    I think he said it and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks. Let's see if he back-tracks and apologizes or if he sticks to his guns like Ron Paul always did.

    Maybe George Washington jumped in the channel as well:

    "Government is not eloquence. It is not reason. It is force."
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 06-11-2012 at 08:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcannon98188 View Post
    What is gained? Other than the reaffirmation that this man is one of the greatest members of the legislative branches that we have? Here is the thing about Liberty candidates. Sometimes they say things not because they stand to gain from saying it, but because it needs to be said.
    Eh, I love him. That doesn't mean the statement was thoughtful though. It was brash. It was emotional. It was personal. Those are things a politician should avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I think he said it and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks. Let's see if he back-tracks and apologizes or if he sticks to his guns like Ron Paul always did.
    He needs to stick with it.

    But he said it in a way that.... I don't know. It seemed rushed, or something. Flippant.

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    Respect and fear aren't the same thing...but Amash gets it right...they only respond to what they fear. It's what Max Stirner wanted...associations of psychopaths only joined by their mutual reverence of each other's ruthlessness. Welcome to unethical Egoism ladies and gentlemen...anomie embraced.

    And we really doubt these people are disproprtionately sociopaths up there? And the reason that's the case is...? Could it be the mechanism draws them like flies to turds?
    Last edited by ProIndividual; 06-11-2012 at 09:20 PM.
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