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    Obama says he’ll portray Romney as extreme libertarian

    This is an overt attack on the liberty movement by Obama, misinformation is going to be at an all time high.

    The establishment is running scared.

    President Barack Obama is previewing his next strategy in the 2012 campaign — an audacious effort to paint former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and the majority GOP as radical libertarians that have abandoned mainstream American politics

    Since 2000, “we [Democrats] haven’t moved that much… What’s changed is the Republican Party,” Obama told a group of wealthy donors gathered Monday night at a New York mansion owned by Marc Lasry. Lasry is a billionaire equity-capitalist who runs a $20 billion fund that buys up the shaky assets of failing companies.

    Republicans “have gone from a preference for market-based solutions to an absolutism… [to] a belief that all regulations are bad; that government has no role to play,” said Obama, who has presided over record unemployment of at least 8.1 percent, record deficits of more than $1 trillion per year, and a record $5 trillion increase in the national debt.

    The president’s divisive strategy is designed to persuade swing-voters that the former governor of Massachusetts is a radical libertarian, even though Obama has repeatedly said his health-sector law is modeled on Romney’s Massachusetts law.

    Obama has also suggested recently that GOP legislators and supporters are irrational, unhinged and sick.

    If the GOP is defeated in the November election, ”the [GOP’s] fever may break,” Obama said June 1. Once “the goal of beating Obama doesn’t make much sense because I’m not running again, [then] we can start getting some cooperation again,” he told donors at a Minneapolis fundraiser.

    Obama made that claim despite a wave of popular support for Republicans in the 2010 midterm elections, resulting in a GOP House majority. Republican leaders and advocates would argue that they share conventional American beliefs about the size and regulatory role of the federal government.

    Obama expanded his anti-libertarian line of attack at the June 4 New York fundraiser.

    “If you look at [Rep.] Paul Ryan’s budget or you look at Governor Romney’s proposals, what they’re talking about is something that is fundamentally different from our experience,” said Obama, whose 2010 health-sector bill has given the federal government unprecedented power to regulate Americans’ health, private lives and religious observance.

    The GOP outlook “is going to be the central issue in this campaign… we’re going to do everything we can to clarify that choice” for the voters, said Obama.

    “What we have to do is to make sure that we’re constantly getting a clear message out about … how our [Democratic] positions are squarely in the center of America’s traditions,” said Obama, who has recently called for a redefinition of marriage to include single-sex couples, and also imposed health-related regulations that require federal inspections of religious institutions to gauge their religious observance.

    This new strategy is likely to be ignored by the GOP’s supporters, but may be effective among so-called “low-information voters,” who are uninterested in politics.

    Many of those low-information voters delay their voting decision until the last few days before the election. Their decisions are swayed by family members, friends and workplace peers, and to some extent, by Obama’s allies in the commercial-culture industry, such as Hollywood.

    Obama’s new strategy comes after he dialed back on his flailing May efforts to paint Romney’s equity-capital career as destructive and selfish.

    The retreat was caused by push-back from centrist Democrats, including former President Bill Clinton, and by his need to raise funds from very wealthy Americans, including Lasry, who hosted the June 4 fundraiser.

    Previously, Obama’s campaign aides have used Romney’s comments from his tenure as governor in liberal Massachusetts to portray Romney as a “say-anything” candidate with no core beliefs.

    That strategy was used by his aides during the primary campaign to spur opposition to Romney among social conservatives and libertarians, but was dropped once Romney secured the nomination.

    The new “insane GOP” strategy may prove equally ineffective, partly because many of the GOP’s voters and leading politicians come from middle America, and from working-class or middle-class backgrounds. They include Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan and Speaker of the House John Boehner, from Ohio.

    For example, a Gallup poll released June 4 shows Romney leading Obama by 49 percent to 45 percent among voters earning between $36,000 and $90,000. Romney also leads Obama by the same 49 percent to 45 percent among wealthier voters.

    Moreover, polls regularly show that the public wants smaller government and lower taxes, even though they also want a strong federal safety net.

    Attendees paid $40,000 per plate to the June 4 fundraiser to hear Obama say the GOP is out of the mainstream. “We’re not the ones who changed,” he said.
    Obama will likely repeat the message when he returns to New York on June 14 to attend another high-dollar fundraiser with the city’s fashion-industry elite, including Vogue’s editor, the British-born Anna Wintour.
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    “We’re not the ones who changed" - Barack Obama

    At least he has finally clarified who he was always talking about when he used to say "Yes we can." If he were to complete the above statement with the word "anything" I would actually have to agree with him. Dumbass Obongo.
    Last edited by paulbot24; 06-05-2012 at 01:57 PM.
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    Obama has been attacking "social Darwinism" for the past month or so.
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    already been posted today. But thanks
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    President Barack Obama is previewing his next strategy in the 2012 campaign — an audacious effort to paint former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and the majority GOP as radical libertarians that have abandoned mainstream American politics

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    if only that were actually true....
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    /thinks he is confused.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbot24 View Post
    “We’re not the ones who changed" - Barack Obama

    At least he has finally clarified who he was always talking about when he used to say "Yes we can." If he were to complete the above statement with the word "anything" I would actually have to agree with him. Dumbass Obongo.
    Wow... he literally just gave the GOP the best election bumper stick in the world.

    "We have not changed" - Barack Obama 6-4-12

    Change we can believe in... that never changes?
    It's just an opinion... man...



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    I had to look at the link to convince myself this didn't come from The Onion.

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    “What we have to do is to make sure that we’re constantly getting a clear message out about … how our [Democratic] positions are squarely in the center of America’s traditions,” said Obama...
    Sadly, he's right about this. Bailouts were pretty traditional before 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    The only response worth making.
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    Yes, I want to force consumers to buy trampolines, popcorn, environmental protection and national defense whether or not they really demand them. And I definitely want to outlaw all alternatives. Nobody should be allowed to compete with the state. Private security companies, private healthcare, private package delivery, private education, private disaster relief, private militias...should all be outlawed.
    ^Minimalist state socialism (minarchy) taken to its logical conclusions; communism.

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    do u see?
    we are the target-get ready for flack, and some of it from friends and family. we have some time but the sooner we act the faster it will spread.
    all we have to convince them to do is put the glasses on


    go ahead you know you want to

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    To opening thread:

    Guess Obama is confused and thinks he's running against Ron Paul.

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    Obama's Democratic positions are "squarely in the center of American traditions?"

    1. Pyramid wealth stealing entitlement schemes bankrupting America
    2. Welfare schemes that break up families
    3. IRS - KGB style thievery
    4. Record breaking debt
    5. Mass failed factories called public schools
    6. Police the world
    7. Medical tyranny
    8. Hitler style civilian army
    9. Nazi gun grabbers
    10. Government enslavement

    Come again?

    We have to know how to take command over the issues and paint the other side before they paint you.
    Last edited by Liberty74; 06-05-2012 at 04:38 PM.
    If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.

    We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty74 View Post
    Obama's Democratic positions are "squarely in the center of American traditions?"

    1. Pyramid wealth stealing entitlement schemes bankrupting America
    2. Welfare schemes that break up families
    3. IRS - KGB style thievery
    4. Record breaking debt
    5. Mass failed factories called public schools
    6. Police the world
    7. Medical tyranny
    8. Hitler style civilian army
    9. Nazi gun grabbers
    10. Government enslavement

    Come again?

    We have to know how to take command over the issues and paint the other side before they paint you.

    Unfortunately, that list pretty much makes the point that they just take turns robbing us, and attempting to control us. That's what america has been for quite some time now, regardless of political party. Can't tell if that was your point or not.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    To opening thread:

    Guess Obama is confused and thinks he's running against Ron Paul.
    He has a billion dollar warchest and he can't figure out who his opponent is? Maybe he is practicing for his real opponent....
    "Perfect safety is not the purpose of government." - Ron Paul

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    Ron Paul suggested a very good first step to the process of restoring sound money... It was beautiful. It left them all standing with their fiats out.
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    'Excuse us, we'll be leaving now. Oh, and you don't mind if we just steal this Constitution before we go? You @#$%s aren't using it anyway...'

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    To opening thread:

    Guess Obama is confused and thinks he's running against Ron Paul.
    he has been since 2007...


    "who? will i debate ron paul? ill worry aboot ron paul when he gets the nomination"-baRRy sotoreo's

    well.
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    hahahah

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    quick! get my waycom!
    Last edited by jkr; 06-05-2012 at 05:25 PM.

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    "Moreover, polls regularly show that the public wants smaller government and lower taxes, even though they also want a strong federal safety net."

    Hmmm. Something about those two things in the same sentence doesn't quite make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tennman View Post
    Obama sucks.
    CLINton blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by tennman View Post
    Obama sucks.
    CLINton blows



    so nice i typed it twice!

    please remove
    Last edited by jkr; 06-05-2012 at 05:38 PM.

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    I think I just peed myself from laughing to hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    "Moreover, polls regularly show that the public wants smaller government and lower taxes, even though they also want a strong federal safety net."

    Hmmm. Something about those two things in the same sentence doesn't quite make sense.
    Yes, American cognitive dissonance.

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    I have to keep looking in this forum and re-reading the title of this thread because I still cannot get over how hilarious it is.
    "Perfect safety is not the purpose of government." - Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    "I was in the rain forest once, and it rained on me..."
    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    Ron Paul suggested a very good first step to the process of restoring sound money... It was beautiful. It left them all standing with their fiats out.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    'Excuse us, we'll be leaving now. Oh, and you don't mind if we just steal this Constitution before we go? You @#$%s aren't using it anyway...'



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    I don't know why Obama acts like he's a lot different from Romney - when they are essentially the same. I guess they have to act like they're against each other like in a play.
    ''There were four million people in the American Colonies and we had Jefferson and Franklin. Now we have over 300 million and the two top guys are Trump and Biden. What can you draw from this? Darwin was wrong.'' ~ Mort Sahl

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    OK, here's how the leftist propaganda works: "Republicans are selfish bastards that want poor people and minorities to just die." Obama and his ilk have pushed that meme and labeled it as "libertarian". It doesn't help when Hannity and Mark Levin claim to be libertarian, and their definition is that "greed is good", "survival of the fittest" and "corporations are people". It should be obvious how all of this dovetails into a convenient attack on Romney.
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    thats right. the gop is just a bad actor here on the play "freedom sucks"

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    “If you look at [Rep.] Paul Ryan’s budget or you look at Governor Romney’s proposals, what they’re talking about is something that is fundamentally different from our experience,” said Obama
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    >Mitt Romney
    >Paul Ryan
    >Libertarians

    Holy hell, lolololololol. Can any sane individual believe this? Obama might have the dumbest political strategy ever if this is what he is doing. "Call Romney a libertarian (a group of people that don't like Romney) and completely misrepresent a group of well informed, activist people". I think we need to have some kind of million libertarian march or something to denounce both Romney and Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosco Warden View Post
    This is an overt attack on the liberty movement by Obama, misinformation is going to be at an all time high.

    The establishment is running scared.
    But what is the attack? Is it Obama attacking Libertarians, or is it more than that?

    It is more than that. The media is going to try to Paint Romney as a Libertarian. This is a move to co-opt and dilute libertarian philosophy.

    Obama might have the dumbest political strategy ever if this is what he is doing.
    This isn't about the election. This is about trying to draw libertarians back into the left-right paradigm.
    Last edited by UWDude; 06-05-2012 at 07:37 PM.

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