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    Assaulted Ron Paul Chair Responds After Release From Hospital

    LA chair after yesterday's event....




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    Excellent response.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    Tee, he called them Nazi's.

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    For next time he will have to learn not to make all of those assumptions he made that got him where he is at now. Why is it that we build our lives over hundreds of faulty wrong assumptions and then must pay the price for so many of them? Because we really like to live in a fast pace life.

    Interesting that my hero, Dr. Paul, didn't make a whole lot of wrong assumptions like those this man made. To the contrary, Dr. Paul has advised people to be respectful of the entire proceedings so that no incidents such as the one that afflicted Mr. Herford would happen. Had the entire LA convention been done illegally then it would have been nullified.

    These are very interesting situations that are happening. Leaders in the GOP choosing to cheat. Police trampling over the rights of citizens with very little concern for the results. People having to pay dearly for having the police around for a pseudo-service which instead becomes a brutal rule. Not that different from those conditions in those countries we go to help change from authoritarianism to democracy.

    This is why for me, Dr. Paul is the most qualified person to assume the position and office of the presidency of the country.
    Last edited by romancito; 06-03-2012 at 06:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    For next time he will have to learn not to make all of those assumptions he made that got him where he is at now. Why is it that we build our lives over hundreds of faulty wrong assumptions and then must pay the price for so many of them? Because we really like to live in a fast pace life.

    Interesting that my hero, Dr. Paul, didn't make a whole lot of wrong assumptions like those this man made. To the contrary, Dr. Paul has advised people to be respectful of the entire proceedings so that no incidents such as the one that afflicted Mr. Herford would happen. Had the entire LA convention been wrong illegally then it would have been nullified.

    These are very interesting situations that are happening. Leaders in the GOP choosing to cheat. Police trampling over the rights of citizens with very little concern for the results. People having to pay dearly for having the police around for a pseudo-service which instead becomes a brutal rule. Not that different from those conditions in those countries we go to help change from authoritarianism to democracy.

    This is why for me, Dr. Paul is the most qualified person to assume the position and office of the presidency of the country.
    Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

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    off twitter just now:

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    For next time he will have to learn not to make all of those assumptions he made that got him where he is at now. Why is it that we build our lives over hundreds of faulty wrong assumptions and then must pay the price for so many of them? Because we really like to live in a fast pace life.

    Interesting that my hero, Dr. Paul, didn't make a whole lot of wrong assumptions like those this man made. To the contrary, Dr. Paul has advised people to be respectful of the entire proceedings so that no incidents such as the one that afflicted Mr. Herford would happen. Had the entire LA convention been done illegally then it would have been nullified.

    These are very interesting situations that are happening. Leaders in the GOP choosing to cheat. Police trampling over the rights of citizens with very little concern for the results. People having to pay dearly for having the police around for a pseudo-service which instead becomes a brutal rule. Not that different from those conditions in those countries we go to help change from authoritarianism to democracy.

    This is why for me, Dr. Paul is the most qualified person to assume the position and office of the presidency of the country.
    Yeah...how is playing by the rules and not making a scene going in OK? Oh yeah...

    Get a clue. The return to our roots will not be without incident.

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    Dr. Paul has advised people to be respectful of the entire proceedings so that no incidents such as the one that afflicted Mr. Herford would happen.
    You gotta be joking, right!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiso0770 View Post
    You gotta be joking, right!!
    He didn't say be respectful when they break your hip. He does think treating people with respect is the way to go, but he also stands up for his rights, and I can't imagine him thinking we shouldn't for ours, assuming he had the truth of what happened. To this day I think he does NOT have the truth of what happened in Oklahoma.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    This man made assumptions as how things would be, the convention executive board did too, the police did too, and here are the results. Arrests, law suits, pain, lost opportunities. The executive board had chosen to hold the convention with illegal rules. The whole thing would have been nullified, no?

    Dr. Paul advised about those kinds of incidents happening and asked everyone to be respectful of the other.

    He is my candidate for President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    For next time he will have to learn not to make all of those assumptions he made that got him where he is at now. Why is it that we build our lives over hundreds of faulty wrong assumptions and then must pay the price for so many of them? Because we really like to live in a fast pace life.

    Interesting that my hero, Dr. Paul, didn't make a whole lot of wrong assumptions like those this man made. To the contrary, Dr. Paul has advised people to be respectful of the entire proceedings so that no incidents such as the one that afflicted Mr. Herford would happen. Had the entire LA convention been done illegally then it would have been nullified.
    Piss off with yer snarky analysis. Yer conclusions violate dept of agroculture hogwashing regs. Some cream mixed with arsenic. Nice try pal. Yer conclusion is to let cheaters cheat and say something after. That hasn't worked for the last century. The elder gentleman is a hero for standing his ground. Many elder republicans will see this and revolt. So the bad move is on the GOP's part and yer a shill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    This man made assumptions as how things would be, the convention executive board did too, the police did too, and here are the results. Arrests, law suits, pain, lost opportunities. The executive board had chosen to hold the convention with illegal rules. The whole thing would have been nullified, no?

    Dr. Paul advised about those kinds of incidents happening and asked everyone to be respectful of the other.

    He is my candidate for President.
    Push push push. I don't like yer agenda. You are shifting blame. Yer being underhanded at the same time about it. The GOP and the jackboots are responsible for this. The RP folks followed the rules. The old codger looking vulture didn't like it cause his back pocket slush funds were gonna get severely cut.. Go commiserate with him about our manners. Find another gambit. I wore this one out to the prom and it's useless now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    ... the truth of what happened in Oklahoma.
    The OK convention did not make so many wrong assumptions. They took their case outside, where they finished what was illegally adjourned.

    There is an RNC Contest Committee composed of regional politicians that are charged with judging over all convention results that are dubious or illegal. That should be the path that the Liberty movement and the campaign should take. Submit all illegal actions by the GOP state conventions to them in a timely manner and demand an explanation as to the judgments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    This man made assumptions as how things would be, the convention executive board did too, the police did too, and here are the results. Arrests, law suits, pain, lost opportunities. The executive board had chosen to hold the convention with illegal rules. The whole thing would have been nullified, no?

    Dr. Paul advised about those kinds of incidents happening and asked everyone to be respectful of the other.

    He is my candidate for President.
    If they followed their own rules, your assumptions may hold some weight. They've proven time and again that they don't though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    This man made assumptions as how things would be, the convention executive board did too, the police did too, and here are the results. Arrests, law suits, pain, lost opportunities. The executive board had chosen to hold the convention with illegal rules. The whole thing would have been nullified, no?

    Dr. Paul advised about those kinds of incidents happening and asked everyone to be respectful of the other.

    He is my candidate for President.
    I respectfully believe you are confused sir. This man was not in the wrong, he followed the rules. By your statement here, you imply we should do whatever the current establishment tells us to do, even if it is against the rules or law. In other words you are saying he should have accepted their chair, and their illegal rules forfeited all of LA's delegates to the national convention. If you want to play that game then you sir are assuming that the RNC would have nullified the convention results the establishment LAGOP committee sent in.
    Personal attacks are always the first sign of a failed argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    The whole thing would have been nullified, no?
    Without incidents such as this shining the spotlight on the corrupt practices by the establishment, quite possibly it would not have been nullified. They WILL do what they can get away with. If it hadn't been nullified, would you advise that we just continue to go along to get along? At what point do heroic people like Henry Harford make a stand? Ever?
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddone View Post
    I respectfully believe you are confused sir. This man was not in the wrong, he followed the rules.
    Followed the rules, and then was ruthlessly attacked as I understand it.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    "I did this for America. This is what is wrong with America." I want to see this man speak to the gatherers in Tampa for Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddone View Post
    I respectfully believe you are confused sir. This man was not in the wrong, he followed the rules. By your statement here, you imply we should do whatever the current establishment tells us to do, even if it is against the rules or law. In other words you are saying he should have accepted their chair, and their illegal rules forfeited all of LA's delegates to the national convention. If you want to play that game then you sir are assuming that the RNC would have nullified the convention results the establishment LAGOP committee sent in.
    I don't think I am that confused if you could interpret what I am saying perfectly. He should have walked out with all of those who perceived that the rule changes made by the executive board were illegal. They should have done like in OK where they held their own convention side by side, outside, in the parking lot using the properly approved rules. The RNC Contest Committee would have had to rule which convention was the legitimate one, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    The RNC Contest Committee would have had to rule which convention was the legitimate one, no?
    And people are making the point that since they are willing to cheat this hard, of course they will cheat while the people are not present.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    The OK convention did not make so many wrong assumptions. They took their case outside, where they finished what was illegally adjourned.

    There is an RNC Contest Committee composed of regional politicians that are charged with judging over all convention results that are dubious or illegal. That should be the path that the Liberty movement and the campaign should take. Submit all illegal actions by the GOP state conventions to them in a timely manner and demand an explanation as to the judgments.
    Aside from the fact that (and I'm stealing from Tom Woods here) that this is sort of like having the RNC's Mom mediate a settlement between the RNC and us, the RNC takes quite a long time to address these issues. For example, the 2008 Nevada convention....the Nevada GOP was sanctioned, and Lowden got a written reprimand, but it happened about a year after the general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    Without incidents such as this shining the spotlight on the corrupt practices by the establishment, quite possibly it would not have been nullified. They WILL do what they can get away with. If it hadn't been nullified, would you advise that we just continue to go along to get along? At what point do heroic people like Henry Harford make a stand? Ever?
    It had to be nullified by the RNC Contest Committee. The thing is that Dr. Paul has advised not to get confrontational with these establishment executive boards. If they do things illegally to block the progress of Ron Paul delegates is better to take the matter to the proper authorities. That's what Dr. Paul looks forward too.

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    The RNC Contest Committee would have had to rule which convention was the legitimate one, no?
    Are you suggesting the RNC Contest Committee would rule in our favor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    I don't think I am that confused if you could interpret what I am saying perfectly. He should have walked out with all of those who perceived that the rule changes made by the executive board were illegal. They should have done like in OK where they held their own convention side by side, outside, in the parking lot using the properly approved rules.
    In OK, the chair improperly ended the convention, which means the convention wasn't actually ended. The attendees kept a quorum, so they moved the convention outside.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Are you suggesting the RNC Contest Committee would rule in our favor?
    The Contest Committee is composed of politicians who know they better be right on their judgments or the people will throw them out of their offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Aside from the fact that (and I'm stealing from Tom Woods here) that this is sort of like having the RNC's Mom mediate a settlement between the RNC and us, the RNC takes quite a long time to address these issues. For example, the 2008 Nevada convention....the Nevada GOP was sanctioned, and Lowden got a written reprimand, but it happened about a year after the general.
    In other words, a lose-lose for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    The Contest Committee is composed of politicians who know they better be right on their judgments or the people will throw them out of their offices.
    And more and more of them just keep getting elected/appointed. When, if not now, does it end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    The Contest Committee is composed of politicians who know they better be right on their judgments or the people will throw them out of their offices.
    You really don't know much about politics, do you?

    Let me rephrase that............

    I think you give to much credence to the judgement and morals of the people we're dealing wih.
    Last edited by Origanalist; 06-03-2012 at 07:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    In OK, the chair improperly ended the convention, which means the convention wasn't actually ended. The attendees kept a quorum, so they moved the convention outside.
    Right, but the end result is that if what they did was according to the legal process then their deliberations would be supported by the RNC Contest Committee.

    But they follow a path of least resistance and came out without arrests, pain, law suits, etc.

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    romancito seems to be doing lots of assuming here himself. Every single post here actually. Oh and by the way they did end up turning all of their chairs around and holding a seperate convention in the same room. Both sides will be submiting a different convention record and slate.
    Personal attacks are always the first sign of a failed argument.

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