Periodically updated delegate count

[juvanya]

I just "canvassed" everything I could find and Romney only has about 1075 delegates. A lot of the delegates that are supposed to be pledged to him dont get elected until conventions/caucuses in May and June, a la Massachusetts. He may actually have a bit over 600, but not too much. I couldnt find info on everything.

Ron Paul meanwhile has 247 delegates, altho a number of these are bound for the first round, but I included them anyway. I can give the exact number I have if its not a nonstate secret. I know there was some secrecy about our results, but all the info has been on Daily Paul and here...

I do not have numbers for Gingrich or Santorum, but I may put them together eventually.

So keep up the good work!

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Heres a breakdown of whats not included:
Kansas (1211+25) - looking for results
Indiana (27+16) - June 9 (CD, state)
Texas (108+44) - June 9 (CD, state)
Pennsylvania (10) - June 10 (state)
Iowa (12+13) - June 16 (CD, state)
Virginia (13) - June 16 (state)
New Mexico (9+11) - June 16 (state)
Massachusetts (11) - June 19 (state; altho I would project Romney 9 Santorum 1 Paul 1 OR Romney 11)
Idaho (29) - June 23 (state)
Oregon (15+10) - June 23 (CD, state)
Arkansas (21) - June 23 (state)
Nebraska (9+23) - not held
Montana (23) - not held
Utah (37) - not held
Oklahoma (25) - this is staying blank until its clear what delegates are accepted

333 not elected yet
25 disputed (OK)
36 looking for them (KS)
108 are hidden (TX)
502 total are not yet handed out in my count

1075 to 247 is the current count. Any other count is wrong. I do award stealth delegates to Paul. If you dont want me to, just refer to AP or Green Papers because bound delegates are easy to find. The rest are uncommitted, unknown, Santorum, or Gingrich, plus 2 Huntsman iirc. I dont keep spreadsheets on S or G. If you want to see my spreadsheet, PM me with your google account.

[sailingaway]

I wouldn't give the total numbers and distribution, let the other side do the work. General totals I think are fine though, as you just did.

And next week includes the Maine and Nevada state conventions....

I would LOVE to see Romney's delegate totals start going BACKWARDS in the media!

[juvanya]

Alright Ill leave it at that then. Theres a lot of stuff like what happened in Mass. If you look here, anything that says "Slate" is bound to whatever apportion of the popular vote. The rest are elected at conventions.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

i have good faith we can spoil Romney from getting the 1144, and have enough supporters running the show at the convention to get Paul nominated without fishy business

[juvanya]

i have good faith we can spoil Romney from getting the 1144, and have enough supporters running the show at the convention to get Paul nominated without fishy business

Our odds are greater than a week ago. We need to keep this up. I wish NJ delegates werent an at large slate. My county convention almost got hijacked, but they banned voting.

[QueenB4Liberty]

i have good faith we can spoil Romney from getting the 1144, and have enough supporters running the show at the convention to get Paul nominated without fishy business

I would just die of happiness.

[zeloc]

Ron Paul meanwhile has over 100 delegates, altho a number of these are bound for the first round, but I included them anyway. .

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Delegates bound for the first round that Ron Paul did not win with the popular vote should not be included. Also Massachusetts shouldn't be included because of the same reason.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Our odds are greater than a week ago. We need to keep this up. I wish NJ delegates werent an at large slate. My county convention almost got hijacked, but they banned voting.

Indeed NJ sucks. Lots of elderly people who aren't adept with the internet, like Florida. Vote the way the MSM tells them to.

[RPSupporter305]

what where the 896? or something like that delegates that were Romney's? Just Fox making numbers up?

[sailingaway]

Our odds are greater than a week ago. We need to keep this up. I wish NJ delegates werent an at large slate. My county convention almost got hijacked, but they banned voting.

They banned voting?

[Endthefednow]

nah fox would never make numbers up

[sailingaway]

Delegates bound for the first round that Ron Paul did not win with the popular vote should not be included. Also Massachusetts shouldn't be included because of the same reason.

this is his total, do your own.

[sailingaway]

what where the 896? or something like that delegates that were Romney's? Just Fox making numbers up?

a bunch are estimates where he won the popular vote. Like Maine. Let's watch that convention next weekend, hmm?

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I would LOVE to see Romney's delegate totals start going BACKWARDS in the media!

That would be fun

i have good faith we can spoil Romney from getting the 1144, and have enough supporters running the show at the convention to get Paul nominated without fishy business

Yes, like ABSTAINING on the first ballot to make the second ballot inevitable, has somebody really looked into this scenario?

[JacobSzumniak]

Is it me or with Ron winning all these CDs in every state I find myself asking where are the Mitt supporters? These are suppose to be the politically active people that don't come to rallies since his are 300-600 people but yet vote for mitt? And ours who come out in thousands don't really vote? But when we get down to the conventions and caucus's we tend to win everywhere we lost? Doesn't add up folks. Unless th sheeple that vote for Mitt believe the election system ends after casting your vote. Just saying Mitts number seem to be appearing as just numbers and no people behind them...

[Champ]

Yes, like ABSTAINING on the first ballot to make the second ballot inevitable, has somebody really looked into this scenario?

No, but I sure as heck would like to know the rules on this as well.

[Champ]

Is it me or with Ron winning all these CDs in every state I find myself asking where are the Mitt supporters? These are suppose to be the politically active people that don't come to rallies since his are 300-600 people but yet vote for mitt? And ours who come out in thousands don't really vote? But when we get down to the conventions and caucus's we tend to win everywhere we lost? Doesn't add up folks. Unless th sheeple that vote for Mitt believe the election system ends after casting your vote. Just saying Mitts number seem to be appearing as just numbers and no people behind them...

It goes without saying that one of the biggest differences between Romney and Paul supporters, is Paul supporters are truly passionate about what he stands for and are outspoken about his ideas, whereas Romney people are just establishment Republicans, following the "frontrunner", are falling in line, and probably have much less of a real connection with their chosen candidate. This translates well into caucus states where will power and motivation factor a great deal larger than simply marking a check next to your candidate.

To me, it's just a simple matter of having more fire in our belly, and it's starting to really show now as county, district, and state conventions have begun to happen.

[kathy88]

It goes without saying that one of the biggest differences between Romney and Paul supporters, is Paul supporters are truly passionate about what he stands for and are outspoken about his ideas, whereas Romney people are just establishment Republicans, following the "frontrunner", are falling in line, and probably have much less of a real connection with their chosen candidate. This translates well into caucus states where will power and motivation factor a great deal larger than simply marking a check next to your candidate.

To me, it's just a simple matter of having more fire in our belly, and it's starting to really show now as county, district, and state conventions have begun to happen.

Absolutely. And Romney just doesn't generate enthusiasm. He's very boring. It was the same way with McCain last time around until he put Caribou Barbie on the ticket. I wonder how she feels about yesterday's turn of events in her home state? I bet she's secretly grinning.

[wgadget]

Is it me or with Ron winning all these CDs in every state I find myself asking where are the Mitt supporters? These are suppose to be the politically active people that don't come to rallies since his are 300-600 people but yet vote for mitt? And ours who come out in thousands don't really vote? But when we get down to the conventions and caucus's we tend to win everywhere we lost? Doesn't add up folks. Unless th sheeple that vote for Mitt believe the election system ends after casting your vote. Just saying Mitts number seem to be appearing as just numbers and no people behind them...

It's always fun to Google MITT ROMNEY CROWDS and look at the Images. His "crowds" are all closeup shots, and the REAL crowds that show up are Ron Paul crowds. HA!

I'm curious to see how the press handles this little glitch. The last Romney crowd I saw an article about was a crowd of 250 at Otterbein University. LOL

[CTRattlesnake]

No he has well over 600

[juvanya]

Delegates bound for the first round that Ron Paul did not win with the popular vote should not be included. Also Massachusetts shouldn't be included because of the same reason.

You can argue it both ways, but I think its important to know how many ninjas we have.

what where the 896? or something like that delegates that were Romney's? Just Fox making numbers up?

Those are estimates. Some of them are technically valid, for example, Romney DOES have 27 pledged delegates from Mass, that are supposed to vote for him. I subtracted from his totals known numbers of RP supporters.

They banned voting?

Im not sure. I didnt go, but I heard in the county RP fb group that they were not going to allow voting on anything. I think they were afraid that we might hijack the convention, rewrite everything, and elect our delegates to state. I can ask those involved if youre curious more?

Yes, like ABSTAINING on the first ballot to make the second ballot inevitable, has somebody really looked into this scenario?

Usually abstaining in votes just changes the majority. So if only 2001 delegates voted, Romney would only need 1000.

Unless th sheeple that vote for Mitt believe the election system ends after casting your vote.

Its exactly this. Did you even know about this delegate stuff before this year? I didnt really. I knew for caucuses you could hijack it. I thought all the primaries were bound to slates.

No he has well over 600

Probably. I didnt give him delegates I think in a few states because I forgot to add the balance that werent RP supporters. However, he does not yet have over 700 for sure. They simply havent been elected yet. For example, Maine, Minnesota, and Nevada are next weekend.

[anaconda]

No he has well over 600

So if Romney wins the remaining "winner-take-all" states does that put him over 1244? Assuming he gets no unbound delegates?

[cassielund99@gmail.com]

no most of the remaining states are proportional. If Ron paul can take a good percentage he will get a piece of the pie

[goldwater's ghost]

we should have a projected first round vote and 2nd rd vote since many of our delegates will be bound first rd.

[sailingaway]

Im not sure. I didnt go, but I heard in the county RP fb group that they were not going to allow voting on anything. I think they were afraid that we might hijack the convention, rewrite everything, and elect our delegates to state. I can ask those involved if youre curious more?

curious is the word, don't go to any great trouble, but not allowing voting seems a bit beyond the pale.

[Drex]

Obviously the MSM's delegate counts are wrong. They are just throwing numbers out without conventions have taken place. Look at this link [ http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates ]

For Iowa:
Romney 13
Santorum 13
Paul 1

Obviously those numbers are way off!

Washington:
Romney 30
Santorum 5
Paul 5

Very laughable.

[anaconda]

I would just die of happiness.

A first ballot failing to elect Romney would be priceless. And a most interesting development indeed.

[r3volution]

A first ballot failing to elect Romney would be priceless. And a most interesting development indeed.

we need to make that happen only because of enough paul delegates though because there will be vultures there to try and steal the nod.

[juvanya]

Obviously the MSM's delegate counts are wrong. They are just throwing numbers out without conventions have taken place. Look at this link [ http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates ]

For Iowa:
Romney 13
Santorum 13
Paul 1

Obviously those numbers are way off!

Washington:
Romney 30
Santorum 5
Paul 5

Very laughable.

The AP is just retarded. CNN is decent. Green Papers seems to be the best and actually explains their methodology, as well as the law/rules.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Absolutely. And Romney just doesn't generate enthusiasm. He's very boring. It was the same way with McCain last time around until he put Caribou Barbie on the ticket. I wonder how she feels about yesterday's turn of events in her home state? I bet she's secretly grinning.

She should've been out there helping. I wonder how she feels about hitching herself to Gingrich now.