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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    I don't claim to be Jesus. Sadly, I lie. As do you.
    You only lie because that is the only thing that Jesus teaches you.
    You cannot support Israel without hating and wishing genocide upon Muslims



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    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post
    I direct your attention to 1 Corinthians 11:6:


    Islam has no punishment for women who do not wear the hijaab, you will find no punishment existing in Islam. Christianity is a different story. Hell, how many Christians besides nuns even cover their hair? Ridiculous.
    Muwahid, it would be better for you to bow out at this time instead of trying to exegesis me verses of the the New Testament. And please dont try to compare the public whippings of young females for not wearing the burka with the statement St. Paul made 2000 years ago which was never taken to mean violence on another.

    And for the record, in most of the Orthodox Christian world the females do wear veils in church and during liturgical services, and can take them off without the threat of violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExPatPaki View Post
    You only lie because that is the only thing that Jesus teaches you.
    So you believe that Jesus is the source of my lying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    So you believe that Jesus is the source of my lying?
    Better yet, don't answer that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    And please dont try to compare the public whippings of young females for not wearing the burka
    The liar has not produced an example of this happening.
    You cannot support Israel without hating and wishing genocide upon Muslims

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Muwahid, it would be better for you to bow out at this time instead of trying to exegesis me verses of the the New Testament. And please dont try to compare the public whippings of young females for not wearing the burka with the statement St. Paul made 2000 years ago which was never taken to mean violence on another.

    And for the record, in most of the Orthodox Christian world the females do wear veils in church and during liturgical services, and can take them off without the threat of violence.
    That was an extraordinary diversion. You find me the punishment for a woman not covering her hair in my Qur'an, because I've found the punishment in your Bible. You are condemning that which Paul ordered when it is from Islam (despite the fact you're making it up, or relying on fringe instances which are not found in the Qur'an or Sunnah).

    That is grandiose hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post

    That is grandiose hypocrisy.
    It is what Jesus taught TER. Lying, diversion and hypocrisy are part and parcel of conversion tactics Christians use.
    Last edited by ExPatPaki; 05-28-2012 at 12:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExPatPaki View Post
    The liar has not produced an example of this happening.
    Not exactly the same, but close enough?

    The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post
    That was an extraordinary diversion. You find me the punishment for a woman not covering her hair in my Qur'an, because I've found the punishment in your Bible. You are condemning that which Paul ordered when it is from Islam (despite the fact you're making it up, or relying on fringe instances which are not found in the Qur'an or Sunnah).

    That is grandiose hypocrisy.
    lol, very well. Defend the stoning for adultery and the whippings for removing the burka and the hangings for sexual immorality and the beheading for the infidel!

    BTW, the false exegesis you posted fails. For what St. Paul says is not that a women should be taken and have their hair cut off, but rather that she might as well as have no hair (in a figurative sense). Sorry, but the verse explanations you find from Islamic sources unfortunately confabulate a bit and do not hold the test of historical accuracy or traditional proof.

    For example, if you can find the tradition and practice of Christian women (ESPECIALLY in the early Church when St. Paul wrote this) being forced to have their hair cut, then you would make history. But, instead, you mistranslate a verse and take a line out of context so that you can justify the atrocities being committed by others. And you call me the hypocrite. I'm sorry for being curt, but I am in a bit of a foul mood tonight. I should probably go to bed.
    Last edited by TER; 05-28-2012 at 12:34 AM.
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    And yet the practices in the video above are real and happening today.
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