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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by opinionatedfool View Post
    The email said we are still going for delegates, so that's what we should do. Trying to win the popular vote is a pointless cause. I think Ron Paul is wise to admit that and work on getting delegates.

    This is the perfect storm to win delegates and get popular votes under the radar
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    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
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    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll



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  3. #32
    I agree somewhat with the OP.

    I've worked my ass off on this Moneybomb, only to have a hand full of people step up to help out with promotion.

    I can't even get the forums to post a widget.

    It's been a frustrating experience, that I will likely never volunteer to do again.
    - zHorns
    Organizer of the Rise for Liberty Moneybomb.

    “We, as a group, now have a greater moral responsibility to act than those who live in ignorance. Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it.” - Ron Paul, Rally for the Republic



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Get defensive and continue to do nothing while people who have been working hard now have to pick up even more slack because so many are too depressed to go forward.

    Some revolution huh?
    What are you? 12? You sound like a whiney martyr. I am signed up to phone from home for the Texas primary and you dont know what people have done over the years for this cause. This thread is counter productive.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Get defensive and continue to do nothing while people who have been working hard now have to pick up even more slack because so many are too depressed to go forward.

    Some revolution huh?
    It's not a real revolution first of all..we aren't violently overthrowing anything (and we'd better not start). It's more aptly an "evolution" in the tradition of Lysander Spooner and the other individualists who swore off revolutions as a means to victory for liberty, and instead embraced evolving the state down to a smaller and smaller unit (until it was possibly abolished, depending on your tastes). Many of us have disliked the "r3volution" tag from the start for what it falsely implies and ignores about the established tradition of the libertarian movement (a nonviolent movement).

    Also, it's not an evolution of a campaign...it's an evoltuion of ideas. The Enlightenment and the Age of Reason took centuries, not a couple of Presidential election cycles. Get used to changing minds and not winning in your lifetime if you're truly dedicated to this cause. This is the 2nd Enlightenment, and we're going to be here a while working in what seems like a vain attempt...we're doing it for those who live after us, not ourselves. We'd all love to see liberty in our time...it's not likely though.

    Welcome to the sucky part of the this movement...the reality we're in a few hundred year long fight and are not likely to see victory anytime soon.

    Besides, we're doing well in delegates...it's not as bad as you think it is. I've been pleasently suprised about how well we've done. I never had any delusions of grandeur, and we have far exceeded my expectations. If Ron Paul wins I think I'll have damn heart attack...but if I die it will be a worthy sacrifice for liberty, so don't cry for me if it happens.
    Last edited by ProIndividual; 05-14-2012 at 01:47 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerographica View Post

    Yes, I want to force consumers to buy trampolines, popcorn, environmental protection and national defense whether or not they really demand them. And I definitely want to outlaw all alternatives. Nobody should be allowed to compete with the state. Private security companies, private healthcare, private package delivery, private education, private disaster relief, private militias...should all be outlawed.
    ^Minimalist state socialism (minarchy) taken to its logical conclusions; communism.

  7. #35
    [QUOTE=zHorns;4424205]I agree somewhat with the OP.

    I've worked my ass off on this Moneybomb, only to have a hand full of people step up to help out with promotion.

    I can't even get the forums to post a widget.

    It's been a frustrating experience, that I will likely never volunteer to do again.[/]

    Pimpin ain't easy. Keep it up!
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fullbuster View Post
    If someone isn't actively campaigning, they are suspending campaigning.

    I am not moneybombing a suspended campaign.
    Says the one block member with an anime avatar and a join date of a few months ago. troll

    Edit: Anyone pissed off at the OP is likely pissed off because they feel like they didn't do enough. If you did everything you could then you shouldn't be mad.
    Last edited by DerailingDaTrain; 05-14-2012 at 01:52 PM.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    Says the one block member with an anime avatar and a join date of a few months ago. troll
    Says the screaming headline on Drudge....
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    Says the one block member with an anime avatar and a join date of a few months ago. troll

    Edit: Anyone pissed off at the OP is likely pissed off because they feel like they didn't do enough. If you did everything you could then you shouldn't be mad.


    Yup I'm glad somebody here gets it
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

  11. #39
    I am sick and $#@!ing tired of people telling me to do more. I do what I can do. My primary is over so all I can do now is PFH and donate and try to spread good info, while raising four kids and running a business. If it's not enough, well, I don't know what to tell you. Posts like this don't motivate anyone they just piss people off. Get it out of grassroots central.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    —Charles Mackay

    "god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
    -Anonymous

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    I am sick and $#@!ing tired of people telling me to do more. I do what I can do. My primary is over so all I can do now is PFH and donate and try to spread good info, while raising four kids and running a business. If it's not enough, well, I don't know what to tell you. Posts like this don't motivate anyone they just piss people off. Get it out of grassroots central.
    This^



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by DerailingDaTrain View Post
    Says the one block member with an anime avatar and a join date of a few months ago. troll

    Edit: Anyone pissed off at the OP is likely pissed off because they feel like they didn't do enough. If you did everything you could then you shouldn't be mad.
    Keep ad homineming bro.

    If you're not campaigning for further contests, you have suspended your campaign.

    Santa did the same thing, but his delegates still worked in conventions with our slates.

    Keep misinforming ppl.
    氷の造形魔法

    Ice Wizard Power - Ice Make

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Nobody promoting the money bombs

    Nobody using phone from home and the program is just sitting there eating money

    No wonder the campaign can't keep up


    You want to change the perception that Ron Paul is still in it to win it?


    Blow up this next moneybomb.
    Give all that you can
    Get on phone from home
    Start promoting money bomb and phoning right this second
    Start organizing the state conventions

    DO SOMETHING!
    You're the only Ron Paul supporter busting ass, right?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by BUSHLIED View Post
    The reason why people stopped giving is because Ron stopped running...it is a vicious cycle. Ron, after NH, didn't really campaign hard, he really didn't even campaign hard enough in NH or Iowa, if you ask me. Santorum and Bachmann campaigned hard. So, why should people give to a candidate that perpetually had one foot in and one foot out. I wouldn't blame the grassroots, they are the one keeping Paul relevant and in with delegates.
    Paul has been getting a decent amount of free interviews on national TV shows. Someone let me know when he starts attacking Romney.

  17. #44
    I believe that since all the Romney supporters in America will think that Ron Paul is dropping out, they will be on their best behavior around Paul supporters in order to win their votes. Since we all know that Paul is not dropping out, we can continue on with our Liberty Campaign of obtaining delegates as before, and also enjoy the friendly overtures of Romney supporters. The Romney camp will be hard-pressed to continue their attacks on us when they know that they need our votes to defeat Obama. What a great way of spreading the Liberty message with people who are now receptive to our message! But then come the GOP Convention...we strike with the ferocity of a thousand delegate-lions unleashed on the weakened prey of those that are poisoning America with their progressive anti-US Constitution agenda.

    General Sun Tzu, "All (political) warfare is based on deception. Therefore, when capable, feign incapacity; when active, inactivity. When near, make it appear that you are far away; When far away that you are near. Offer the enemy a bait to lure him; feign disorder and strike him."
    Last edited by Q11Q; 05-14-2012 at 02:41 PM.

  18. #45
    If I read right the last few days after the Oklahoma and Arizona conventions a few people were complaining that the campaign wasn't sending them parliamentarian experts to help them deal with chairman's voting tricks. Well here you have it. The announcement states that the campaign will concentrate on winning delegates at the remaining conventions. Ron Paul and campaign leaders can't be in two places at the same time. Now they made a decision to be where they are needed the most. Any way, California and Texas and the other primary states wouldn't change that much since the people who vote for Romney just want more of everything the government has to offer so that they feel we are the greatest nation on the face of the earth, even if they have to walk holding hands like kindergarten children. Also regardless of the outcome of the primaries, once Romney is denied nomination on first ballot it will be very difficult for Ron Paul to get 1144 delegates at the convention without a whole lot of work being done from now till the convention nomination time. Ron Paul needs to spend his time getting his ducks in a row. He needs to get a few high visibility supporters such as Sarah Palin, etc. and that takes a whole lot of time to do.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    I hope Benton isn't the one running the campaign for Rand Paul in 2016
    I called for Benton's firing about 2 months ago. But what is done is done my friends...

    I tried to educate many of you about how to run a national "Republican" primary campaign but most die hards in here refused to listen.

    And since many were against an Indy run, the two party criminal system continues...
    If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.

    We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.

  20. #47
    I have a feeling they are doing exactly the right thing to do considering their limited resources. The road forward is way uphill and now that the potential to deny Romney a first ballot nomination is increasing, then that means that getting 1144 for Ron Paul later on is not something that would just happen. If Romney is denied then Ron Paul needs to start making preparations for what comes right after Romney is denied on first ballot. That has to be daunting and it is a lot of internal party politics and very difficult for Ron Paul to do.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty74 View Post
    I called for Benton's firing about 2 months ago. But what is done is done my friends...

    I tried to educate many of you about how to run a national "Republican" primary campaign but most die hards in here refused to listen.

    And since many were against an Indy run, the two party criminal system continues...
    And what are your credentials may I ask?



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  23. #49
    I like Sarah Palin. She took time to come to a winter Tea Party rally I was at during a blizzard, as Romney laid on some hellishly hot Mexican beach drinking RINO Kool-aid margaritas while being pampered to by sunburned establishment Gollums who coveted the Precious ring adorning his skeletal finger.
    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    Ron Paul needs to spend his time getting his ducks in a row. He needs to get a few high visibility supporters such as Sarah Palin, etc. and that takes a whole lot of time to do.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Q11Q View Post
    I like Sarah Palin. She took time to come to a winter Tea Party rally I was at during a blizzard, as Romney laid on some hellishly hot Mexican beach drinking RINO Kool-aid margaritas while being pampered to by sunburned establishment Gollums who coveted the Precious ring adorning his skeletal finger.
    Sarah Palin is to liberty as surfboards are to Eskimos.

  25. #51
    I admire her as a political heroine. It was because of her that got me interested in examining what the corrupt GOP establishment was doing to manipulate voters into voting against their very own self-interests, in regards to Liberty. I've always like Ron Paul, but for me to start critically analyzing his political philosophy and finally understand what he was trying to bring forth and to bypass the filters of deception placed before me from the biased media and GOP establishment, I needed a spark and Palin was it. She went against the GOP establishment in Alaska and won. That's inspiring. Like her or not, she motivated me to join as partners with you all in the Paul R3volution to bring Liberty back to America.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Sarah Palin is to liberty as surfboards are to Eskimos.
    Last edited by Q11Q; 05-14-2012 at 03:29 PM.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Sarah Palin is to liberty as surfboards are to Eskimos.
    It looks to me like Romney could be denied nomination on first ballot. It won't happen unless Ron Paul shows much more depth than what he has now. Once Romney is denied, people like Sarah Palin are the ones that can turn Santorum and Gingrich delegates and some of Romney's delegates to vote for Ron Paul.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by romancito View Post
    It looks to me like Romney could be denied nomination on first ballot. It won't happen unless Ron Paul shows much more depth than what he has now. Once Romney is denied, people like Sarah Palin are the ones that can turn Santorum and Gingrich delegates and some of Romney's delegates to vote for Ron Paul.
    That doesn't sound much like a revolution. Kissing Palin's ass sounds like politics as usual.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    And what are your credentials may I ask?
    He's got an opinion and access to his mom's computer- what more does he need in the way of credentials

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    He's got an opinion and access to his mom's computer- what more does he need in the way of credentials

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    That doesn't sound much like a revolution. Kissing Palin's ass sounds like politics as usual.
    Not to mention that when she had the chance to err on the side of liberty she proved herself just another warmonger. Most of her rhetoric was just that. She may appeal to Tea Partiers but she will never appeal to civil libertarians.



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  32. #57
    Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck COOPTED the TEA PARTY. That should be the end of any further discussion. That bitch would have to call a press conference and throw her support behind Paul NOW for a modicum of acceptance in my eyes.
    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    —Charles Mackay

    "god i fucking wanna rip his balls off and offer them to the gods"
    -Anonymous

  33. #58
    Oh, STFU people. Get focused. The campaign is not over.

    Love you all. Come on, let's get busy again.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Oh, STFU people. Get focused. The campaign is not over.

    Love you all. Come on, let's get busy again.
    Amen that
    "It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." Robert Kennedy

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