Results 1 to 21 of 21

Thread: Breaking: Syria suffers massive car bombing

  1. #1

    Breaking: Syria suffers massive car bombing

    A terrible tragedy.

    "Syria suffered its worst terrorist attack since the start of the uprising when 55 people were reported killed and nearly 400 injured in twin suicide car bomb blasts near a government intelligence building in Damascus.
    ...
    The death toll was the biggest in Damascus since the start of the uprising in March 2011. It was sophisticated and carefully co-ordinated. Witnesses said the first blast, at rush hour peak, was quickly followed by a second, larger one, maximising casualties, damage and terror. Most of the victims were reported to be civilians.

    "Two booby-trapped cars loaded with more than 1,000kg of explosives and driven by suicide bombers carried out the terrorist blasts," said a statement by the interior ministry. The explosions left two large craters.

    Syrian state TV showed bodies lying in the street amid smouldering vehicles. The official health ministry tally of the dead and 372 injured included a reference to "15 bags of body parts."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.



  2. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  3. #2
    And you will not believe this. It's bizzaro world. These people have no shame. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    Shepard Smith was reporting on this attack on Fox News. He actually mocked the description of this as a "terrorist" attack. Gee, this was simply the actions of "opposition fighters". No doubt Shepard would like to send in American reinforcements to help these "opposition fighters" who are blowing up innocent men, women, and children.

    Shepard Smith: “The massive blast killed dozens of people and reportedly hurt nearly 400 others...the attack happened in the Syrian Capitol of Damascus, the very heart of the brutal regime...Syrian Officials called it the work of terrorists, as they always do, the government's label of choice for opposition fighters.”
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  4. #3
    Which Western intel agency authorized this one?

  5. #4
    The opposition fighters are blaming the Assad government.

  6. #5
    The badly armed opposition somehow managed to get 2 cars packed with explosives in front of the intelligence building in Damascus ,yea right.

    They are going to turn the entire region into a blood bath,the Alawi and Christians hold almost all positions in the Syrian army + the Kurds have a deal with the government.If the government somehow loses power there will be the Alawi,Christians and Kurds on one side and the Arabs on the other the result will be carnage for the next decade that will probably drag both Turkey,Iraq and Jordan into war.

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Which Western intel agency authorized this one?
    This is the question that should always be asked.

    As Michael Scheuer says "Wherever there is trouble, you'll find the agency."

  8. #7
    Two things we can be sure of, fingers will pointed in all directions, and we will never know the actual truth.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  9. #8
    This isn't about this attack, but regarding attack that happened before:

    US blames al-Qaida of Iraq for Syrian bombings


    Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said bombings against security and intelligence targets in Damascus and Aleppo bear 'all the earmarks of an al-Qaida-like attack,' leading the US intelligence community to believe the Iraqi militant branch is extending its reach into Syria.

    He added that Syrian opposition groups may have been infiltrated by al-Qaida, likely without their knowledge. Clapper said the lack of a unified opposition group could leave a power vacuum that extremists could fill if the Syrian government falls, a potential development he called "troubling," because Syria has an extensive network of chemical weapons sites.
    Sweet, al-Qaida could potentially be armed with chemical weapons. Yay freedom!!
    Last edited by ExPatPaki; 05-10-2012 at 06:43 PM.



  10. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  11. #9
    edited post, see below
    Last edited by thequietkid10; 05-10-2012 at 07:42 PM.

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by thequietkid10 View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks this whole "how could they have done this all by themselves, there MUST be a western agency pulling the strings" line of thinking reaks of racism?
    Why are the Syrian rebels so incompetence that they can't collect enough explosive material to fill two cars over the course of a year long rebellion. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nicols did it by themselves. Why would they feel the need to ask the west for permission first?

  13. #11
    This is what war is, one way or another the innocent die.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    This is what war is, one way or another the innocent die.
    Whoa.



    Pfizer Macht Frei!

    Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.


    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

  15. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by thequietkid10 View Post
    Why are the Syrian rebels so incompetence that they can't collect enough explosive material to fill two cars over the course of a year long rebellion. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nicols did it by themselves. Why would they feel the need to ask the west for permission first?
    On the other hand, it appears that al-Qaida now have a trade mark or something on these kind of attacks:

    'all the earmarks of an al-Qaida-like attack,'
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And you will not believe this. It's bizzaro world. These people have no shame. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    Shepard Smith was reporting on this attack on Fox News. He actually mocked the description of this as a "terrorist" attack. Gee, this was simply the actions of "opposition fighters". No doubt Shepard would like to send in American reinforcements to help these "opposition fighters" who are blowing up innocent men, women, and children.
    Don't be a contrarian. I can show you videos of the Syrian military lighting people alive on fire, burying people alive, because they don't worship Bashar al Assad, and if you think that's an exaggeration you're wrong. Welcome to the world of the Ba'ath party.
    “I'm real, Ron, I'm real!” — Rick Santorum
    “Congratulations.” — Ron Paulą

  17. #15
    Free "Syrian" Army stronghold equipped with Milan missiles

    http://www.voltairenet.org/Free-Syrian-Army-stronghold

    The Battle of Homs was particularly deadly for the belligerents on both sides, as well as for civilians. During the first three days, the Syrian Arab Army was warded off by the rebels that blocked all entry points to their neighborhood. They destroyed all approaching armored vehicles using Milan missiles. Ultimately, the Syrian Arab Army had to resort to multiple rocket launchers to bombard the Milan firing posts, at the risk of causing heavy civilian casualties.

    Each Milan shooting station, located on every street going into Bab Amr costs 100,000 euros, and each missile about 12,000 euros. The missiles were fired at a rate two to three rounds per minute. This equipment is manufactured by North Aviation (France) and MBB (Germany). It is supposed to have been given to the Free "Syrian" Army by the United Kingdom and Germany.

    In April 2011, Doha officials acknowledged that Qatar had delivered Milan missiles to Libyan insurgents from Benghazi to help overthrow the Arab Jamahiriya, by way of the UN resolution that allowed the delivery of "defensive weapons " (sic) to the Libyan opposition.

  18. #16
    U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups, cables released by WikiLeaks show
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...l?nl_headlines

    The State Department has secretly financed Syrian political opposition groups and related projects, including a satellite TV channel that beams anti-government programming into the country, according to previously undisclosed diplomatic cables.

    The London-based satellite channel, Barada TV, began broadcasting in April 2009 but has ramped up operations to cover the mass protests in Syria as part of a long-standing campaign to overthrow the country’s autocratic leader, Bashar al-Assad. Human rights groups say scores of people have been killed by Assad’s security forces since the demonstrations began March 18; Syria has blamed the violence on “armed gangs.”

    208

    Comments

    Weigh In
    Corrections?

    Personal Post

    Graphic
    Middle East and North Africa in turmoil
    Click Here to View Full Graphic Story

    Middle East and North Africa in turmoil

    More on this Story

    In Yemen, anger from activists over U.S. policy
    U.S. aided Syrian opposition
    13 killed in Syria during protests
    Misurata continues to face attacks

    View all Items in this Story

    Obama and Ban Ki-moon

    Barada TV is closely affiliated with the Movement for Justice and Development, a London-based network of Syrian exiles. Classified U.S. diplomatic cables show that the State Department has funneled as much as $6 million to the group since 2006 to operate the satellite channel and finance other activities inside Syria. The channel is named after the Barada River, which courses through the heart of Damascus, the Syrian capital.

    The U.S. money for Syrian opposition figures began flowing under President George W. Bush after he effectively froze political ties with Damascus in 2005. The financial backing has continued under President Obama, even as his administration sought to rebuild relations with Assad. In January, the White House posted an ambassador to Damascus for the first time in six years.

    The cables, provided by the anti-secrecy Web site WikiLeaks, show that U.S. Embassy officials in Damascus became worried in 2009 when they learned that Syrian intelligence agents were raising questions about U.S. programs. Some embassy officials suggested that the State Department reconsider its involvement, arguing that it could put the Obama administration’s rapprochement with Damascus at risk.

    Syrian authorities “would undoubtedly view any U.S. funds going to illegal political groups as tantamount to supporting regime change,” read an April 2009 cable signed by the top-ranking U.S. diplomat in Damascus at the time. “A reassessment of current U.S.-sponsored programming that supports anti-[government] factions, both inside and outside Syria, may prove productive,” the cable said.

    It is unclear whether the State Department is still funding Syrian opposition groups, but the cables indicate money was set aside at least through September 2010. While some of that money has also supported programs and dissidents inside Syria, The Washington Post is withholding certain names and program details at the request of the State Department, which said disclosure could endanger the recipients’ personal safety.

    Syria, a police state, has been ruled by Assad since 2000, when he took power after his father’s death. Although the White House has condemned the killing of protesters in Syria, it has not explicitly called for his ouster.

    The State Department declined to comment on the authenticity of the cables or answer questions about its funding of Barada TV.



  19. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  20. #17
    Syrian Rebels are Foreign-backed Terrorists
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.es...gn-backed.html
    Syrian Rebels are Foreign-backed Terrorists
    Latest terrorist attack in Damascus illustrates illegitimacy of both Syria's rebels & the UN/NATO backing them.
    by Tony Cartalucci

    Update: March 19, 2012 - It is now confirmed that Saudi Arabia is shipping arms to foreign fighters and Syrian rebels operating out of Jordan. The Australian reports in their article, "Bombs in Syria as Saudis 'send arms to rebels'," that "Saudi military equipment is on its way to Jordan to arm the Free Syrian Army," quoting an Arab diplomat. Of course, as reported below, the "Free Syrian Army" is led not by Syrians, but by NATO-backed Libyan militants from the US State Department-listed terrorist organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.

    It must be noted that Saudi Arabia in turn, receives its weapons and a significant amount of military funding from the United States.
    ....

    March 18, 2012 - A twin terrorist bombing in the Syrian capital of Damascus, allegedly targeting government buildings, ripped through a Christian neighborhood killing an estimated 27, mostly civilians. A third bomb exploded, killing only the driver of the car it was placed in, in what was apparently an attempted triple suicide bombing. CBS News reports (1) that after other similar attacks, U.S. officials suggest Al Qaeda terrorists "may be" amongst the Syrian rebels. However, while the West attempts to portray this as an unexpected development, we shall see that it not only was likely, but in fact the premeditated modus operandi of Western-backed destabilization efforts directed at upturning not only Syria, but the entire Arab World.

    Pentagon's Premeditated Arab World Blitzkrieg.

    From the beginning the United States has been directly behind the unrest in Syria. In fact, America's involvement in destabilizing Syria began years before the admittedly US-engineered Arab Spring (2) even unfolded in a premeditated plot to upturn the entire Arab World and reorder it according to their own corporate-financier and hegemonic geopolitical interests.

    In a 2007 speech given to the Commonwealth Club of California (3), US Army General Wesley Clark would state that in 1991, then Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Paul Wolfowitz said the US had 5-10 years to clean up the old Soviet "client regimes" before the next super power rose up and challenged western hegemony. Clark claimed that this, along with the aftermath of 9/11 constituted a policy coup where Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and the other members of the of Project for a New American Century had hijacked US foreign policy to destabilize and turn the nations of the Middle East upside down - much the way they are now.



    Clark would go on to say that shortly after September 11, 2001, while at the Pentagon, a document handed down from the Office of the Secretary of Defense indicated plans to attack and destroy the governments of 7 countries; Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Iran, Lebanon and Libya.

    Clearly the United States has already "attacked and destroyed" Iraq, which in 2003 was invaded and subsequently occupied for nearly a decade at the cost of nearly a million lives including over 4,400 US soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines, and trillions of dollars of taxpayer money. Likewise Libya was destabilized and invaded by proxy through a combination of US-led NATO forces and US State Department listed terrorist organizations including the (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (listed #27) lead by Abdul Hakim Belhaj.

    Somalia has been the victim of repeated US-backed invasions by Ethiopia (4), Uganda, Kenya (5), and systematic air (6) and drone campaigns (7) carried out by the recently established US Africa Command (AFRICOM), while neighboring Sudan has been carved into two separate states, isolating the oil-rich south (8) with further intervention pending as public support is built by stunts including the fraudulent Kony 2012 video and George Clooney's pro-imperial intervention advocacy.

    US designs toward Iran serve as a model for Syria.

    Iran has likewise been under systematic premeditated attack for years, including brutal sanctions, and the training, arming, and funding of US State Department-listed foreign terror organization (listed #29), Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) to carry out terrorist attacks within Iran, as well as the constant threat of unilateral attack by either Israel or the US, or both - all of which was described in minute detail in 2009 amongst the pages of US policy think-tank Brookings Institution's "Which Path to Persia?" report (9).



    Which Path to Persia? .pdf
    ....

    In their report, they openly conspire to use what is an admitted terrorist organization as a "US proxy" (emphasis added):

    "Perhaps the most prominent (and certainly the most controversial) opposition group that has attracted attention as a potential U.S. proxy is the NCRI (National Council of Resistance of Iran), the political movement established by the MEK (Mujahedin-e Khalq). Critics believe the group to be undemocratic and unpopular, and indeed anti-American.

    In contrast, the group’s champions contend that the movement’s long-standing opposition to the Iranian regime and record of successful attacks on and intelligence-gathering operations against the regime make it worthy of U.S. support. They also argue that the group is no longer anti-American and question the merit of earlier accusations. Raymond Tanter, one of the group’s supporters in the United States, contends that the MEK and the NCRI are allies for regime change in Tehran and also act as a useful proxy for gathering intelligence. The MEK’s greatest intelligence coup was the provision of intelligence in 2002 that led to the discovery of a secret site in Iran for enriching uranium.

    Despite its defenders’ claims, the MEK remains on the U.S. government list of foreign terrorist organizations. In the 1970s, the group killed three U.S. officers and three civilian contractors in Iran. During the 1979-1980 hostage crisis, the group praised the decision to take America hostages and Elaine Sciolino reported that while group leaders publicly condemned the 9/11 attacks, within the group celebrations were widespread.

    Undeniably, the group has conducted terrorist attacks—often excused by the MEK’s advocates because they are directed against the Iranian government. For example, in 1981, the group bombed the headquarters of the Islamic Republic Party, which was then the clerical leadership’s main political organization, killing an estimated 70 senior officials. More recently, the group has claimed credit for over a dozen mortar attacks, assassinations, and other assaults on Iranian civilian and military targets between 1998 and 2001. At the very least, to work more closely with the group (at least in an overt manner), Washington would need to remove it from the list of foreign terrorist organizations."

    - page 117-118 of "Which Path to Persia?" Brookings Institution, 2009

    It was also revealed in Seymour Hersh's 2008 New Yorker article "Preparing the Battlefield," that not only had MEK been considered for their role as a possible proxy, but that the US had already begun arming and financing them to wage war inside Iran:

    "The M.E.K. has been on the State Department’s terrorist list for more than a decade, yet in recent years the group has received arms and intelligence, directly or indirectly, from the United States. Some of the newly authorized covert funds, the Pentagon consultant told me, may well end up in M.E.K. coffers. “The new task force will work with the M.E.K. The Administration is desperate for results.” He added, “The M.E.K. has no C.P.A. auditing the books, and its leaders are thought to have been lining their pockets for years. If people only knew what the M.E.K. is getting, and how much is going to its bank accounts—and yet it is almost useless for the purposes the Administration intends.”

    Seymore Hersh in an NPR interview, also claims that select MEK members have already received training in the US.

    More recently, the British Daily Mail published a stunning admission in their report titled, "Mossad training terrorists to kill Iran's nuclear scientists, U.S. officials claim... but is Israel's real target Obama?" by "US officials" that Israel is currently funding, training, arming, and working directly with MEK. The Daily Mail article states, "U.S. officials confirmed today that Israel has been funding and training Iranian dissidents to assassinate nuclear scientists involved in Iran's nuclear program." The article continues by claiming, "Washington insiders confirmed there is a close relationship between Mossad and MEK."

    Quite clearly then, the use of listed terrorist organizations is not an unfortunate or unexpected development in the midst of Western backed regime change operations - they are a central pillar in their planning and execution.

    This leaves only Lebanon and Syria - Lebanon having suffered a brutal air assault by Israel (10) who ultimately failed to rout Hezbollah forces in the summer of 2006. Breaking the back of the Iranian-Syrian alliance that allegedly serves as the foundation of Hezbollah's strength would next be targeted.

    The overthrow of Syria's government is a premeditated US plot.

    A concerted campaign to isolate, destabilize and overthrow the government of Syria began in 2002, a year after Clark was informed of the Pentagon's plan to blitzkrieg through the Middle East. It was then that Secretary of State John Bolton added Syria to the growing "Axis of Evil (11)." It would be later revealed that Bolton's threats against Syria manifested themselves as covert funding and support for opposition groups inside of Syria spanning both the Bush and Obama administrations.

    In an April 2011 CNN article (12), acting State Department spokesman Mark Toner stated, "We're not working to undermine that [Syrian] government. What we are trying to do in Syria, through our civil society support, is to build the kind of democratic institutions, frankly, that we're trying to do in countries around the globe. What's different, I think, in this situation is that the Syrian government perceives this kind of assistance as a threat to its control over the Syrian people."

    Toner's remarks came after the Washington Post released cables (13) indicating the US has been funding Syrian opposition groups since at least 2005 and continued until today.

    In an April 2011 AFP report (14), Michael Posner, the assistant US Secretary of State for Human Rights and Labor, stated that the "US government has budgeted $50 million in the last two years to develop new technologies to help activists protect themselves from arrest and prosecution by authoritarian governments."

    The report went on to explain that the US "organized training sessions for 5,000 activists in different parts of the world. A session held in the Middle East about six weeks ago gathered activists from Tunisia, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon who returned to their countries with the aim of training their colleagues there," (emphasis added). Posner would add, "They went back and there's a ripple effect." That ripple effect of course is the "Arab Spring," and in Syria's case, the impetus for the current unrest threatening to unhinge the nation and invite in foreign intervention."

    More recently, revelations that Syrian militants are in fact being armed, trained, funded, and even joined on the battlefield by Libya's Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a US State Department-listed foreign terrorist organization (listed as #27) (15) only further highlights the necessity of Syria's government under President Assad to attempt to restore order at all costs. The Telegraph would report in November 2011 (16) that LIFG leader, Abdul Belhaj met with senior leaders of the "Free Syrian Army" on the Turkish-Syrian border. It was reported that Belhaj was pledging weapons and money (both of which he receives from NATO) as well as sending LIFG fighters to train and fight alongside Syrian militants.

    VoltaireNet.org would confirm (17) Belhaj and his LIFG's role in not just assisting Syrian militants but in fact leading them in NATO's armed destabilization of Syria.

    US-led NATO and the UN are backing terrorists in the midst of military conquest disguised as "humanitarian intervention."

    Now, with terrorist bombing campaigns targeting civilians and ripping through Damascus, we see just as it was planned for in Iran, the deployment of terrorist elements and tactics to bolster Western efforts to topple the Syrian government. The corporate media in tandem with Pentagon officials feign ignorance in an attempt to maintain plausible deniability before a public they assume are far too ignorant to have read or comprehended their designs articulated in documents like "Which Path to Persia?"

    It is confirmed that the UN's casualty reports are based solely on opposition "activist" accounts and not on any verifiable facts. The UN's November 2011 human rights report was based solely on such accounts, recorded not in Syria or the surrounding region, but rather in Geneva. The report itself was compiled by Karen Koning AbuZayd who is concurrently a member of the Washington D.C. based Middle East Policy Council (18), along side current and former associates of Exxon, the US military, the CIA, the Saudi Binladin Group, the US-Qatari Business Council (19) and both former and current members of the US government.



    Image: Just some of the corporate members of the US-Qatar Business Council, whose president just so happens to sit on the same board of directors of the Middle East Policy Center as Karen AbuZayd, co-author of the conveniently timed UN Human Rights Council report on Syria.
    ....

    Likewise, other "human right advocates" like Amnesty International are similarly compromised - Amnesty being headed literally by a former US State Department official, Suzanne Nossel, Executive Director (20). Nossel had just finished a stint as Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Organizations at the U.S. Department of State before being appointed as head of Amnesty (21). She was also vice-president of strategy and operations for the Wall Street Journal and a media and entertainment consultant at McKinsey & Company (a Council on Foreign Relations "founding" corporate member (22)).

    Amnesty International also receives funding from Wall Street speculator George Soros' Open Society Institute (annual report page 8)(23) as well as the UK Department for International Development (page 8), the European Commission and other corporate-funded foundations.

    Clearly "humanitarian concerns" are a disingenuous justification for continued meddling in Syria, with all involved notorious fabricators and harboring a staggering array of demonstratively conflicting interests.

    With the addition of evidence proving the premeditated use of terrorist elements in the overthrow of sovereign foreign nations in US policy planning, the West's efforts, as well as those of their proxies carrying their agenda out on the ground in Syria, are exposed as illegitimate criminality of vastly unprecedented proportions.

    References Cited

    1. "Twin suicide bombers kill 27 in Syrian capital," CBS News, March 17, 2012
    2. "2011 - Year of the Dupe," Land Destroyer, December 24, 2011 - citing New York Times article, "U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings," April 14, 2011, Ron Nixon
    3. "Wesley Clark on America's Foreign Policy 'Coup'," FORA TV, October 3, 2007
    4. "U.S. Support Key to Ethiopia's Invasion," USA Today, Barbara Slavin, January 8, 2007
    5. "U.S. intensifies its proxy fight against al-Shabab in Somalia," Washington Post, Craig Whitlock, November 25, 2011
    6. "US Bombs Islamist Town in Somalia," BBC, March 3, 2008
    7. "US flies drones from Ethiopia to fight Somali militants," BBC, October 28, 2011
    8. "Sudan: Future Oil Exporting Powerhouse?" NASDAQ.com, March 16, 2012
    9. "Brookings' "Which Path to Perisa?" Land Destroyer, February 13, 2011 (links to original Brookings document.)
    10. "Book Faults Israeli Air War in Lebanon," New York Times, Steven Erlanger, October 14, 2007
    11. "US Expands 'Axis of Evil'," BBC, May 6, 2002
    12. "U.S. denies support for Syrian opposition tantamount to regime change," CNN, April 18, 2011 (page 2)
    13. "U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups, cables released by WikiLeaks show," Washington Post, April 18, 2011
    14. "US trains activists to evade security forces," AFP, April 8, 2011
    15. "Foreign Terrorist Organizations," US State Department retrieved March 18, 2012
    16. "Leading Libyan Islamist met Free Syrian Army opposition group," The Telegraph, November 2011Link
    17. "Free Syrian Army commanded by Military Governor of Tripoli," Voltairenet.org, December 19, 2011
    18. "Middle East Policy Council Board of Directors," Middle East Policy Council, retrieved March 18, 2012
    19. "US-Qatari Business Council Members," US-Qatari Business Council, retrieved March 18, 2012
    20. "Executive Director of Amnesty International USA," Amnesty International, retrieved March 18, 2012
    21. "Hillary Clinton aide at the helm of Amnesty International USA," Voltairenet.org, November 23, 2011
    22. "Council on Foreign Relations Corporate Members," Council on Foreign Relations, Retrieved March 18, 2012
    23. "Report and financial statements for the year ended 31 March 2011," Amnesty International Limited, (page 8) Retrieved March 18, 2012
    24. "Report and financial statements for the year ended 31 March 2011," Amnesty International Charity Limited, (page 8) Retrieved March 18, 2012

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post
    Don't be a contrarian. I can show you videos of the Syrian military lighting people alive on fire, burying people alive, because they don't worship Bashar al Assad, and if you think that's an exaggeration you're wrong. Welcome to the world of the Ba'ath party.
    What are you talking about? Is that supposed to make it OK to intentionally set off car bombs to kill innocent men, women and children?

    And the reason that was hypocritical by FOX is that almost every other car bombing is done by what they call a "terrorist", and is often followed by calls for the US to intervene (by killing more people and blowing stuff up).

    I don't know who started, encouraged, funded and instigated this outbreak of death and destruction in Syria, but it probably wasn't the innocent people who are getting killed and maimed and having their cities destroyed.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 05-11-2012 at 10:43 AM.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  22. #19
    Shepard Smith: “The massive blast killed dozens of people and reportedly hurt nearly 400 others...the attack happened in the Syrian Capitol of Damascus, the very heart of the brutal regime...Syrian Officials called it the work of terrorists, as they always do, the government's label of choice for opposition fighters.”
    So the people who just set off a bomb killing 55 people and injuring 400 are not terrorists, but "opposition fighters" we should praise

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
    So the people who just set off a bomb killing 55 people and injuring 400 are not terrorists, but "opposition fighters" we should praise
    That's how it sounded. Apparently murder is not a crime if you side with the murderer. Same old story. The "Mujahideen Freedom Fighters" are now "terrorists". Go figure. The Ministry of Truth can turn on a dime, and the fury of the ignorant masses can be redirected at will.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post
    Don't be a contrarian. I can show you videos of the Syrian military lighting people alive on fire, burying people alive, because they don't worship Bashar al Assad, and if you think that's an exaggeration you're wrong. Welcome to the world of the Ba'ath party.
    Don't be an idiot. Just because the Syrian government is evil (and they are) doesn't mean that they can't be attacked by terrorists. Setting off car bombs and killing innocent men, women and children is an act of terrorism regardless of the nature of the government you are fighting. Now if you're going to claim this is some sort of "false flag" carried out by the Syrian government itself to blame it on the opposition, that would be a different matter. But that would take you into the realm of (gasp) "conspiracy theory".

    Side note: I've known the Syrian government was unmistakably evil after reading Stephen Grey's book "Ghost Plane" about the CIA rendition program. A large section of the book is devoted to the story of a Canadian Muslim, who's only crime was being seen with a suspected terrorist exiting a mosque, and who was kidnapped by the CIA and taken to Syria where he was torture. The torture included genital mutilation with razor blades. So yes the Syrian government is evil. Of course what does the government that kidnapped him and sent him to Syria?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



Similar Threads

  1. I Wish Nobody Was Bombing Syria
    By Suzanimal in forum Ron Paul Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-05-2015, 07:47 AM
  2. Bombing Syria off the table-- for now
    By VoluntaryAmerican in forum Syria Intervention
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 09-17-2013, 08:39 PM
  3. RPI on the current Israel bombing of Syria
    By sailingaway in forum Ron Paul Forum
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: 05-05-2013, 09:57 AM
  4. Breaking: Syria suffers massive car bombing
    By Brian4Liberty in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-10-2012, 05:51 PM
  5. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 01-25-2010, 07:16 PM

Select a tag for more discussion on that topic

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •