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Thread: Rand Paul has a quick fix for TSA: Pull the plug

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    Really, it should be very simple.

    If Congress had the collective guts, all it would take is a bill to de-fund the TSA. No funding, no TSA.

    But if this were to occur, the collective bleatings of fear from the American sheeple would be deafening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCIndy View Post
    But if this were to occur, the collective bleatings of fear from the American sheeple would be deafening.
    Wrong. The sound you'd hear would be the exact same sound you heard when they put the TSA in place. Not a goddamn sound, that's what you'd hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VBRonPaulFan View Post
    Wrong. The sound you'd hear would be the exact same sound you heard when they put the TSA in place. Not a goddamn sound, that's what you'd hear.
    That's cause Google, Wikipedia, Facebook etc. didn't mobilize the masses to fight the TSA like they did to protect their financial interests on SOPA. And they didn't fight CSIPA because that was aligned with their interests.



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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Rand Paul I love you! Plus rep for posting this!
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    "“The American people shouldn’t be subjected to harassment, groping, and other public humiliation simply to board an airplane. As you may have heard, I have some personal experience with this, and I’ve vowed to lead the charge to fight back."

    Rand-he ain't Ron but he is the next best thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    That's cause Google, Wikipedia, Facebook etc. didn't mobilize the masses to fight the TSA like they did to protect their financial interests on SOPA. And they didn't fight CSIPA because that was aligned with their interests.
    Nothing new, that's how world works, people pursue what is in their perceived self-interests; our job is to expand their perception to realize that violation of some people's liberties will eventually to violation of everyone's liberties one way or another
    There is enormous inertia a tyranny of the status quo in private and especially governmental arrangements. Only a crisis actual or perceived produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. That, I believe, is our basic function: to develop alternatives to existing policies, to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable
    - Milton Friedman

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    Sorry, to 'just get rid of them' might be a lot easier said then done.The special interest has already been formed. The newly formed TSA party will fight every attempt to dissolve their parasitical and privileged status. Their paychecks and the power they wield have already corrupted them. They are 100 percent government bought. You could say the state gave birth to them in a way, and for that fact alone, they will give glory to government forever and ever amen. [Poly-ticks].



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    I view the TSA as central banker's thugs. Honest sound money puts an end to their reign of terror because people won't pay gold or silver to be obstructed. End The Fed and End The TSA along with the Police State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VBRonPaulFan View Post
    Wrong. The sound you'd hear would be the exact same sound you heard when they put the TSA in place. Not a goddamn sound, that's what you'd hear.
    Not necessarily. Some people wouldn't care and would go about their frivolous lives, but others would start shouting about how all those tourists (terrists) are going to come and kill us now. Then you have us, but from the majority, you will get a mixture of silence and bleating in fear. That is to say, just bleating in fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Not necessarily. Some people wouldn't care and would go about their frivolous lives, but others would start shouting about how all those tourists (terrists) are going to come and kill us now. Then you have us, but from the majority, you will get a mixture of silence and bleating in fear. That is to say, just bleating in fear.
    Be cheaper to hand out 9mm's to every passenger.

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    All the stories about the TSA groping crippled 4-year old children and 88-year old Grandma's are starting to have an effect. As clueless as Americans are, I think there is a real dislike for the TSA, and it will continue to grow as Americans realize the TSA is nothing more than "security theater" that infringes on the rights of Americans, makes flying a miserable experience, and does nothing to stop terrorists.

    Hopefully, we can make it go away- or at least remove the most egregious aspects of it (the groping, the porno scanners, and the like).

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    Terminate every single one of them, WITHOUT even a final paycheck and take every piece of their gear to the local landfills. Oh, and blacklist every stinking one of them so that they end their days as starving paupers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Be cheaper to hand out 9mm's to every passenger.
    Please, let's be realistic here.

    4" 38 spcl revolvers are a much better option.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Or Nothing II View Post
    Nothing new, that's how world works, people pursue what is in their perceived self-interests; our job is to expand their perception to realize that violation of some people's liberties will eventually to violation of everyone's liberties one way or another
    Educating the masses isn't good enough at this point. We need to become the new media. We need to be the ones launching the next generation of Facebook or YouTube or whatever. I'm tired of the liberty movement being broke (myself including) and doing a "moneybomb" here and a "chipin" there. How to get there? I don't know yet. But between now and 2015 we need about 10,000 Ron Paul millionaires. And that might not even be enough.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Reading the comments from that link is really startling. The amount of people jumping all over Rand and supporting the TSA is kind of surprising. I didn't think THAT many people are willing to give up any and all liberty.
    Last edited by Origanalist; 05-04-2012 at 02:28 PM.

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    It sounds to me like Rand can use all the help he can get. Sign the petition supporting him on this;

    http://www.chooseliberty.org/tsa_sign.aspx?pid=0501n

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    I wish that was the case.

    If people were truly upset, more than 1 in 10,000 would "opt out" and bog the process down.

    If just ten percent of the flying public did that, change would happen.

    I can't 1 percent to.

    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    All the stories about the TSA groping crippled 4-year old children and 88-year old Grandma's are starting to have an effect. As clueless as Americans are, I think there is a real dislike for the TSA, and it will continue to grow as Americans realize the TSA is nothing more than "security theater" that infringes on the rights of Americans, makes flying a miserable experience, and does nothing to stop terrorists.

    Hopefully, we can make it go away- or at least remove the most egregious aspects of it (the groping, the porno scanners, and the like).

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    Some real unaltered statistics would be helpful...

    How many non-government inspired "terrorists" have these jokers actually caught?

    I'm not talking about Jr. with his boy-scout knife or granny with her nail clippers...

    Our government has spent billions of tax-payer (and borrowed) dollars on this "feel-good" BS and what do we have to show for it?

    Loss of liberty and acclamation to indignities just to travel....

    I agree with Rand.....It'd be nice if he included a few other alphabet agencies in his bill though.



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