CNN: Israel's Dep.Prime Minister "[Ahmad] didn't say wipe Israel off the face of the map"

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I hate most every government, but I hate our current one the most because we could change it and are too stupid to do it. And how is ours not worse? How many tens of thousands of foreigners have we killed for no good reason? How many has theirs? I mean, I hear about a stoning for adultery every now and then, and that people have to wear headscarves, but if I had to choose between a gov't that made you wear a headscarf and one that was out mass-murdering people around the globe--well shit, I'd put on a headscarf and be grumbly about it.

That is your choice. We still have many forms of choice in this country that we don't think about. But not point in discussing that.

Just using my cost-benefit reasoning, in my opinion it is too risky to let Iran maintain nuclear weapons when considering their situation, and all I support is eliminating their weaponry and leaving, perhaps a small price to pay.

[Kluge]

That is your choice. We still have many forms of choice in this country that we don't think about. But not point in discussing that.

Just using my cost-benefit reasoning, in my opinion it is too risky to let Iran maintain nuclear weapons when considering their situation, and all I support is eliminating their weaponry and leaving, perhaps a small price to pay.

You're an interventionist who doesn't respect their sovereignty. No different than a neocon.

My top three most hated governments (in no particular order):

1. US
2. Israel
3. Saudi Arabia

That is the true axis of evil. And we helped Israel get nukes...and Condi Rice delivered a shit ton of nuclear info to Saudi Arabia just prior to Obama taking office. And you're shaking in your boots about Iran and want to kill people who've never done a damn thing to you.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

You're an interventionist who doesn't respect their sovereignty. No different than a neocon.

My top three most hated governments (in no particular order):

1. US
2. Israel
3. Saudi Arabia

That is the true axis of evil. And we helped Israel get nukes...and Condi Rice delivered a shit ton of nuclear info to Saudi Arabia just prior to Obama taking office. And you're shaking in your boots about Iran and want to kill people who've never done a damn thing to you.

I don't care what you call me. I am an interventionist when it comes to certain nuclear scenarios; that is about it. I am less interventionist than Barry Goldwater. I don't abandon all my common sense for principle. My human nature tells me that I would rather make sure millions of Americans are safe as opposed to allowing Iran to have nukes.

[Kluge]

I don't care what you call me. I am an interventionist when it comes to certain nuclear scenarios; that is about it. I am less interventionist than Barry Goldwater. I don't abandon all my common sense for principle. My human nature tells me that I would rather make sure millions of Americans are safe as opposed to allowing Iran to have nukes.

How many nukes do we have? How reluctant are we to use them? How big of a crater would Iran be if they nuked us or anyone else that we "like?"

Speaking of common sense--you don't have much.

P.S. You want to kill Iranians--great! You gear up and fly over there and shoot them your own damn self and on your own dime.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

How many nukes do we have? How reluctant are we to use them? How big of a crater would Iran be if they nuked us or anyone else that we "like?"

Speaking of common sense--you don't have much.

I am not convinced that Iran respects MAD. I still can't comprehend how so many people take nuclear weapons so lightly, and how they seem to have little national interest at all.

[Kluge]

I am not convinced that Iran respects MAD. I still can't comprehend how so many people take nuclear weapons so lightly, and how they seem to have little national interest at all.

Because they have the right to defense, just as every one of us do. I don't take them at all lightly, considering what we did in Japan. But when we, Israel and Saudi Arabia are constantly threatening Iran--what the hell do you expect them to do? Roll over?

Our gov't has killed their own citizens with zero second thought over and over again. Are you convinced that the US gov't respects MAD?

Why the focus on Iran? Has Fox News tunneled a giant hole into your brain? There are far bigger threats, most of them we've created.

[jmdrake]

That is a rational reason to get nuclear weapons, but it doesn't mean that it is Iran's rational reason.

Read the Iranian Constitution: http://www.iranonline.com/iran/iran-...itution-1.html

Well that's pretty much the same constitution our government helped get written for Iraq. So what's your point? Oh, and I didn't see "Wipe Israel off the map" in there. Did I miss it?

[bolil]

Perhaps we can punk Iran. Send a massive fleet of bombers over them.... and drop flower petals. Or dollar bills.

[Kluge]

Perhaps we can punk Iran. Send a massive fleet of bombers over them.... and drop flower petals. Or dollar bills.

That'd be hilarious if it wouldn't cause so many heart attacks!

[Aurave]

Regardless of why the Supreme Leader hates the U.S., it bothers me that one old man who is a Shi'a fundamentalist would have the ability to use nuclear weapons if he saw fit. I think there are too many millions of possible innocents in this country just to ignore the situation.

I feel the same way about the US President.